The media

2008-05-31 20:25:09

Ive thrown away alot of plants in the last 10 years. Then I realized
they too were being attacked by something. The soil gets fungus
colors and brittle, the leaves get tiny holes.?? So now I have 4
plants and thats it, theyre alive cause I bathe them once a month,
running water through plant in sink, and once a week I wipe the
little leaves so gently with a wet paper towel. I feel so bad for the
animals I had too. I gave my last cat to my sister 5 years ago. Then
I didnt know what to do, with antibiotics and flea and worm meds. Her
house has the bugs too, whatever they are. All her cats have mange,
throwing up. Her and her kids all have strange symptoms starting just
like I did a few years ago. She wanted nothing to do with any idea
that we had a bug or parasite. It is happening though. This has been
brought to my ex boys house too.
I think we must get this out there as much as we can. By writing to
your Board of Health, the Govenor, the CDC. Also I have contacted 2
radio stations. I wont use my name and hopefully will do a telephone
interview. My girl friend Galle from New Hampshire will be doing it
with me. She doesnt mind her name being used here because she will be
joining us here as soon as she gets her computer. She is so ill, her
skin so damaged, but she is working with her doctors, the MRF and
best of all her docs are FOR her recovery because they made sure her
records were sent to the CDC. She travels to Boston. Ill get the name
of her doctor. But they are all perplexed too. Again docs are more
interested in our symptoms instead of the reason behind them.
I agree this is so abnormal, not anything we humans have seen before.
stuff was dropped from the sky, wether chemical or alien mite, it
came from the sky. Thats why the animals got it first, birds and
rats, then our water supply gets damaged.
Back in 85 I was a young mom, new born and 3 kids. We all got
Giardia!! I never left the country. Docs wouldnt beleive we had
anything wrong. I marched my little kids all over friggin town to
specialists. It wasnt until the Pediatrician said she would tests us
all 3 times. She found it.
Also the apartment I lived in where we got Morgellons also had 2
holes in water pipe coming into house! That was reported to Board of
Health immediately! The Town is covering up. The state is covering
up. The CDC and our government has to be covering up something
unusual and scary.
contagious. Thats all I got to say. Yeah some people are highly
allergic, like me, and some can carry this and it doesnt seem to
bother them, but give it time. I can see how its worked its way
through my family. I warned them years ago. Noone listened.
My cat ran away from my sisters house. She looked run down and sad. I
think she passed on because I saw her in a dream. ThanGod shes ok now.
Anyone have animals? How are they? Many blessings to you all, Nat

insects on houseplants

2008-05-31 16:15:36

Around the time that I first began to realize that something was
happenning with my skin, hair, etc., I also noticed a large number of
some sort of gnat like, flying insect, in and around my houseplants
and the areas the plants were in. My kitchen area and bathrooms also
had these strange insects flying about or dead. My other household
members and visitors in my home, also noticed these insects in my
home. I sprayed my plants with insecticide for houseplants numerous
times, without sucess. I finally threw the plants out, after I began
to see these insects on my computer screen, mirrors and me. That was
how this nightmare began, finding that these insects were making me
itch, flying around me, emerging from my hair and body and clothing.
Early on I had blacks specks stuck to my clothing and seemingly
coming out of my pores. I knew for sure that somehow these insects
were living in and on me, when I picked one of these blacks specks
out of my clothing and it flew. I don't know if this could be a
factor or not, but my washing machine had completely flooded my
entire home ($12,000 in damages) and mold could have been presaent in
my home because of all the moisture, carpets wet and pulled up, walls
and furniture wet, etc. but after my home flooded is when I first
started seeing these insects. Has anyone else here noticed insects
on plants and in home, close to the time when it was first discovered
that there was a problem that turned out to be Morgellons. Early on
I believed there was a correlation with the plant infestation and my
symptoms. I had 2 roomates, one of whom I began having symptoms of
Morgellons several months later. I have since lost contact with this
roomate, so I don't know if he ended up with a full blown case of it
or not. My roomate was one of the few who had no trouble seeing what
I was seeing happenning with my skin, hair and the insects, unlike
the many doctors I have been to these last 3 years. If anyone has
had a similar experience, would you please let me know. I became
even more curios about this after I read some articles on
agrobacterium and plant disease. Thanks!

Fenbendazole herxing

2008-05-31 12:16:28

I hope a similar post doesn't go thru. My computer gave up just as
I was ending my post. I was wondering if anyone has experienced
anything similar to this. I started taking Fenben appx. 10 days
ago. I take the horse dose 4.5 mg. 3 days on 1 day off or 4 days on
1 day off. Since I started taking this, it seems that its getting
worse. My hair has always been the most affected, but it has changed
now. I now have appx. 90% fiber hair, that comes in mostly black,
but also smaller blue and red fibers. It is breaking off and falling
out in gobs now. The ends are clearish, white. I do think I will be
bald very soon if something doesn't slow this down. My other
symptoms have also gotten bad, but my hair is the most noticable. I
had seen an improvement in the amount of small, flying insects,
starting in November. These are also coming back with a vengance.
Has anyone else here experience anything similar? I don't know if I
need to stop the Fenben or possibly change the dosage. Does anyone
have any suggestions? I would be so thankful for any ideas. This
group has been such a big, help in coping with this. I read all of
the posts. I wish that I had more success in treating this, so I
could post something that might help someone else get some relief
from their symptoms, but unfortunatly, not much has worked for me
yet. Thank you to all of you guys who post regularly. I appreciate
it so much. This groups keeps me from feeling so all alone in
dealing with this terribly, depressing condition. I too seem to be
somewhat obsessive in examing the fibers slight movements, colors amd
curly, zig zag, couse texture. It is amazing, but sad. I look at
these fiber things and I KNOW that this has to be something made in
the name of science and couldn't possibly be something natural or
previously in our environment.. I really don't believe that God
intended for us to be using DNA, etc. in experiments, etc. I just
think that something someone invented in a lab got out of control.
This is just what I believe, I have no facts at all, except what I
have read. It's all so confusing. I hope we all get help soon. I
would be more than happy to participate in a class action lawsuit, I
just wish we had more concrete evidence as to who or what caused
this. Thanks in advance for any helpful ideas anyone posts
concerning my herxing like this , with no sign of improvement, even
after 10 days of Fenben.

Re: New Poll

2008-05-31 07:47:06

"franlanedobson"
To participate in this poll just click on the
"polls" link on the left side of this page. Then click on "Random
Symptoms". Mark all of the descriptions which you feel pertain to
you & finally click on the "Vote" tab. The running totals will be
immediately available for you to view.
Thanks . . . Jim

New Poll

2008-05-30 18:58:25

If you would like to take a minute and participate I've added a new
poll entitled "Random Symptoms". Thanks much

Zane

2008-05-30 09:18:26

I saw your astrological site and its wonderful! You are such a good
writer and very funny. Must be that Sag moon!

Re: Questions!

2008-05-30 08:58:07

I thought Flagyl caused cancer and is banned in the US.
It is sold in other countries.
No, fenbendazole is not that drug.
I think the first was albendazole, then mebendazole, then fenben.
This is from memory, so it may not be accurate.
Again, from a poor memory, there is an upgrade to febendazole.
It is the chemical that the body turns fenben into.
But please research the toxicity of a drug before considering it.
THis might take a lot of hunting around, but you should be careful.
The risk, if any, might be worth it, but you should know the risk of
taking a drug.
When I first started fenbendazole I noticed many eggs (tiny grain
sized things of varying colors) when I evacuated. Other people have
mentioned this, too.
But these variations may just indicate that we are infected with
differing things or some people have a heavier infestation than
others.
For a while I seemed to be getting anemic. I was cold and
progressively weaker. When I pulled my lower lid down the coloring
was too pale. I started eating more meat. Women can get in trouble
with iron pills. For anemia the B vitamins are also important(B12
especially I think?), but I have always had a problem digesting these
in pill form.
From my reading, some worms love carbs and some, protein. When people
are weak they are often tempted for a quick boost from sweets, but
this is bad for you.
Liver is high in B12 and iron, if you like it. I'm only mentioning
this because chicken liver is relatively inexpensive for meat if you
are on a fixed income and don't want to splurge on a big steak.
Tiredness can also be depression. Again, B vitamins are supposed to
be good for nerves, but I never take it. We keep a few bottles of
St.John'sWort and Sam-E around the house for gloomy days.
If you don't go outside often, you can get SAD(Seasonal Affective
Disorder) from the lack of vitamins which your body manufactures from
full spectrum light. Florescent bulbs have a greater wave range than
incandescent and they sell full spectrum 'grow lights' for plants.
It may be cheaper, however, to just get a bottle of A&D vitamins.
The recommended dosage is supposed to be way too low to be effective,
but I only take one regularly.

Re: Trial and error

2008-05-30 01:19:39

The thing is, N, many (probably most) of us who take fenben over time
find that once it starts effectively combatting this attack on your
body, the 'environmental'(read: 'bugs in the house') problem just
goes away.
It is the things in your body(worms) that are causing the problems.
If you just treat the skin they will go dormant and burrow deeper
inside the body. Because your skin has way more nerve endings than
your internal body, you think you have beaten them when they burrow
more deeply because you do not feel them. They also can lie dormant
when threatened by things they do not like.
If you decide to take fenbendazole, you really should not stop unless
your health is threatened. I think this is our only real substance
that will combat this thing, so far, and if you stop you will allow
them to breed and become resistant to it.
They can become resistant, I think, by constantly exposing them to a
drug but dosing far enough apart to allow some eggs to hatch and
develop to maturity. So, the one that do survive in each generation
will become immune to the drug. If you think of what a farmer does,
following label directions, dose and stop, dose and stop - this is
why drugs that used to work on worms are not as effective, and
ranchers are complaining about this.
Some drugs, praziquantal and ivermenctin to name two, cannot be taken
daily as they will harm your liver - but this is not the case for low
doses of fenbendazole, at least to the experience of many.
You will not kill them with one strong application of anything on the
market, including fenbendazole.
So, before you start with this, if you do, be sure that you can
weather the expense and be sure you take the right dose.
I find the cheapest thing and easiest to take is the liquid cattle
formulation. Wendy takes the paste, in a tube. The most expensive
is the powder they sell for dogs.
Fenbendazole kills early stages and eggs of many worms. The optimal,
yet lowest dose is twice the cattle recommendation(liquid), or the
regular (sometimes called power dose) dose for horses (paste in
tube), or one-fifth of the dog dose(powder, in packets). This means,
if you got the powder, divide your weight by 5 and take the dose
recommended for a dog that weight.
If you take half of the doses I recommend above, from what I read,
you will be killing the new eggs, but fewer of the young which have
hatched.
Over time, either way is effective.
I am thinking, though, that the larger dose that I recommended can
more easily allow you to skip a day or two in your regimen. If we
knew the breeding cycle, we would know how long it takes for eggs to
hatch and the time until they reach full maturity, which would allow
us to better figure a dosage.
Be mindful that you/we may have worms that are second cousins to
those of someone else and perhaps some of us can make do with a lower
dose and others could get in trouble with that amount/schedule.
I would like to repeat the point that I no longer go nuts cleaning
and spraying and bathing several times a day. In fact, my daily
schedule is about what it was before I got this thing. I also sleep
through the night.
If you start with fenben, be sure you have some sort of supply on
hand and reorder before you run out, so you have a cushion and don't
have periods in which you must discontinue.
Also, fight to keep your logical self. If you allow yourself to fall
to pieces over this you may miss something. All we have is our
brains and logic to help fight this thing. If you allow your brain
to shut down you are screwing with your most important tool.
If you observe their reaction in your body, you will see that if you
ingest something they don't like, they will sometimes 'act up' in an
attempt to get away from that substance. I have sometimes felt more
movement in my hands and feet and realized those were the extremes
away from my digestive area.
Then, that not working well for them, they go dormant. You are
fooled into thinking you have defeated them so you stop whatever it
was you were doing, and they resurface.
Worm eggs can be viable and dormant for up to 5 years. I have not
found out how long the worms, themselves, can remain dormant.
I know I have a variation of the classic Morgs and I take the fenben
daily plus Moxidectin (two ticks of the tube) no closer together than
one month apart. Your body reacts to the effective drug in this
(Ivermectin) and it is your body's reaction (taking several days)
that causes them to go dormant. After 3 doses of this, I can stretch
out the dosage to a longer time.
Most Morg people seem to only require the fenbendazole, which is
safer (not as easily toxic) than ivermectin. And people often skip
one or two days, as well. Whatever I have requires more aggressive
treatment. I have taken praziquantal for a bit, too, but don't think
this is effective against whatever I have remaining in my body.
The above is my opinion from my readings and observations. Others
may have differing ideas.
Yes, I have tried a lot. I have sent overseas for various drugs,
tried various 'rain forest' herbal preparations, garlic, GSE, etc.
I am no expert, by any means, but I can say, of all I have tried,
good old fenbendazole has been the most effective, giving me a life
back.
THere are a lot of people who take advantage of us when we are down,
giving people false hope. Some re-package things you can get much
more reasonably and raise the price.
One person had a 'system'. Swore he got rid of this in himself, and
if you subscribed to his method, you too, would be cured. The sucker
would send money and get, perhaps a diet. In the next installation,
for the next money the person sent, they would get a list of herbs -
this would go on and on, each communication of what to do to get rid
of Morgs listed things that were harder and harder to get. Somewher
down the line the person was told to get some drug that was totally
not available. The response was something like, 'Well I promised I
would tell what cured me, and you could be too. It's not my fault
they are no longer makeing that drug.'
Usually anything offered as a 'miracle', if you research what is in
it, you find you can purchase the miracle with many fewer dollars.
Also, this thing we have is throughout the body. Most worming herbal
preparations and 'cleanses' are just addressing the digestive
system. Do not believe the donkey dust about these things curing
Morgs.
Perhaps everything combined can cleanse the body and strengthen the
immune system, but the only consistant thing for me, is the taking of
fenbendazole regularly, daily, for as long as it takes to have the
adults just die off of old age - years - or until there is enough
information out there, in the medical literature, so my local doctor
will know where to send me for a cure.
THere will ultimately be a cure for this thing.

Questions!

2008-05-30 00:50:15

Thanks everyone who adds to the information of healing. I appreciate it
so much. Not feeling well, cold and weak, not mentioning everything
else.
Is Fenbendazole a sister drug of Metronidazole? Other wise known as
Flagyll? I notice that Metro eases up the intestines for me and what
comes out is strange. Im sure we all have stories on that.
I promise as soon as Im not shivering too much I will get back on track
with reading all the posts carefully.

Trial and error

2008-05-29 18:54:36

Good post Patram81 hope I got your name correct. I have wondering about
taking the doggy meds too, since I use flea shampoo, why not? I
understand how dangerous it can be if someone doesnt understand their
body. You sound like you have tried alot of stuff, me too.
On the CDC again, they arent giving us what we need because of the
trickle down effect of secrecy, money,ego, and fear. They dont want to
admit we're right and they dont want to catch this! Ive seen it in alot
of docs eyes, the wonder, then the fear. Then the let down for me.
I feel trapped alot. I have to think so much, save time and energy,
save money for cleaning, and always bring plastic bags. Dont ya hate
when you forgot to wipe down the car seats from the night before? All
showered and less itchy ya get in and blam! they start a biting.
I thank God everyday for sustaining this body until the answers are
brought forward.

Need a break sometimes!

2008-05-29 08:54:29

My oldest asked me what I wanted for Christmas, I said a hospital bed,
Xanax, and a little Morphine. It is what it is.

What about Bartonella's disease?

2008-05-29 05:38:54

Hi everyone, been moving furniture for 3 days. I just read all your
posts and definitely think this group has a bunch of intellifient
folks! In my case the pyhisical illness has forced me to look at my
spirit, I mean forced! I was darn need suicide for a hundred times at
least in my mind. Alcohol, any thing to forget this shit ass illness.
My friend who has this disease also had Bartonellas. I have all the
signs for that too. How do you bring this up to the doctor? They dont
like doing tests for no reason. I know I have to bring in material
from the Internet or mail them because they are just so way behind in
these dieases.
Im rambling, sorry. Astrology, I hope your sincere too cause it would
be fun to talk to someone about that and this disease. I got secret
illness on my chart, things that are hidden. Hopefully the planets
will be in our favor soon, and I think they are. I also predict
weather patterns by the signs! Not proffesionally, just an everyother
day fun thing to do! We should talk private so,s not to offend or
disrupt this site.
Granulomas. My doctor didnt even diagnos the ones on my fingers. I
know that its caused by infection, cause the bumps strted to go away
with antiobiotics. But they still hurt. Im looking forward to seeing
if peoples doctors are working with them, dont really care, or
against them. I, after 8 years, have one who doesnt really care, but
is srting to look pretty wide eyed, and at least I can sometimes get
the drugs I need. If he doesnt, Ive borrowed and begged, friends,
other docs. I know of the cleanses too, they are helpful.
Nematodes, just read about them! Ya think? LOL! I probably got worms,
crawly bugs, and amoebas and what ever else wants to set up house in
my freaking liver! Jeepers. We are damn brave people you know! When
we get through this rough patch we will come out a stronger person.
If I dont look at least once a day at WHAT this illness has taught me
my spirit just falls! Im not always cheery, not always sad either, Im
both and very volatile in emotion when it comes to this subject. I
know I came on strong with my first hello, Im sorry. I do think we
come here with our personalities and thats awesome! But we need to
leave the ego/ anger, jealousy.. whatever makes us creepy people! at
the door. Its my 2 cents and we are all worth an opinion. I will
always respect everyone here.
Have an awesome day, I will check you guys posts later, love Natalie

Re: LATEST M-R-O MORGELLONS CONCLUSIONS: DISCREDITED

2008-05-29 00:18:28

CONCLUSIONS: DISCREDITED
Guess you don't keep current because the SiFi stuff you posted is just
that; FICTION"! You should really try to read a bit more!!! Zip

Re: Identity Theft

2008-05-28 19:03:36

I agree. This person sounds sincere, and I think she is.
But then, the very best crooks are the ones who we would most trust, so
it is not always wise to 'listen to your feelings'.
When I first heard her ask for information, I knew she would require
the time and place of birth, as well as the date. I wondered why she
did not ask that up front, in the first communication.
It's a shame that we live in such a world, where we must be so
cautious.
It is said Africa is the cradle of civilization. I believe it, seeing
that so many of us are getting emails regarding dead relatives in
Nigeria.
I remember, years ago, my company sent me to a talk about a new
software product that it had purchased. The instructor was bragging
about the product and how safe a person's data was when ordering
online. Just a few days previously I had ordered a book from Amazon
with a new credit card and had to cancel it as some crook had started
charging to it. The instructor was actually arguing with me that it
could not have been the case. That book, ordered over the weekend, was
the one and only purchase I had made with the card.
That was a long time ago, and I have not since had a problem.
Now, I hear theives are charging small amounts to a large number of
credit cards because people don't tend to question small charges on
their cards and cancel.
THere is some program on tv that is geared to warning people of scams.
One showed an eatery with tables on the sidewalk. Some guy in a suit
grabs some menus and walks to a table and asks them for payment, under
some excuse that the wait person is indisposed. He is given a credit
card and just walks away.
In another, a waitress has a card reader strapped under her pant leg
and 'drops' a card, swiping it, before giving it back to the patron.
In most states it is now illegal for Motor Vehicle Agencies to give
personal information out, but I hear some still may, and detectives
often can get such information, especially if they were once police.
Ownership of housing is part of a town's public record, and, believe
it or not, some of this stuff is online. If you give your phone number
to someone on the net they can research and get the area you live in.
There are reverse directories in which they can get your house address
from just a phone number. Through the town's records they can find out
the value of your house.
Of coarse, this is complicated by cell phones, especially those with
different area codes.
So, it is safer to give no personal information out. You just never
know these days, and one little mistake can open the door to a
nightmare.
This is not even addressing crooks, because you may make an online
comment that just hits someone who does not process correctly and open
the door to a problem.
THere is sometimes a tendancy, while posting online, to be a bit more
extreme in commenting than if you saw a person, face to face. There is
also an inclination to push each other to extremes during an argument,
in a struggle to 'win'.
Online, there is no body language to read, no changes in the tone of a
person's voice. So some of the natural clues that you would have in
normal conversation are missing.
EAch of us would like to live in an open and trusting world, but before
giving personal information out, it is best to pause and weigh what you
will gain against what you could possibly lose.
There was at least one case in which a person scanned multiple forums
to glean information about a poster. Little by little, he gathered
dribs of personal information and put it all together.
Someone, elsewhere, tried to find out more about me and found the
name 'Rabnoolas' and implied that I might be some sort of foriegn
plant. It was actually some name my husband would use in his youth,
some of his favorite haunts, spelled backwards.
That was funny.
Be careful. Even if someone is recommending a product, if you have
never heard of it before the people behind the website you are directed
to could be collecting information and giving it to some theives.
A retiring watchman in a local park once told me the police patrolled
the park at night making sure no one was there illegally after dark,
not to prevent crime as much as to take their drug payoff from local
pushers. This is small town, low crime, USA.
A girl I went to college with dated a cop who told her never to give
her address to the cops when her house was empty during vacation.
Those addresses got on a list that was circulated to crooked police in
a neighboring precinct who would arrange for a little off-hours
visit.
We live in troubling times, indeed. The Hindus call it the KaliYuga -
the last and most corrupt of the 4 cycles of creation. When this age
ends the new and most glorious one begins.

Re: anyone who's interested

2008-05-28 13:11:07

Now Zip ...... just because you are feeling better now I wouldn't stop
taking the fenben as if this is a parasite nematode (which I think it
is!!!!!) they go into different stages. I have been on this for 14
months now .... at a low dose and am doing great!!!!! I just received
my latest big tube of fenben delivered by Fed-X today!!!!!
I'm glad you are feeling better!!!! Others that I keep in contact with
privately are also doing great! I still get liver function tests with
great results!!!! But going off of it may start this all over again.
I was so shocked seeing the condition of my legs in that last news
segment. That part of the video was taken in 2004. Now I'm lesion-
free!!!!!!
Wendy

anyone who's interested

2008-05-28 01:55:31

Just want to let anyone who's interested know that I'm starting to
feel a lot better. I'm now just taking 100mg of fenben 2 times a day
for 5 days and then taking a 2 day break. Pain in joints and shoulder
is going away and eyesight and memory are improving. Hope it keeps
working... Zip

Re: LATEST M-R-O MORGELLONS CONCLUSIONS

2008-05-27 21:11:18

Your're forgiven ... !!!!!! It has been posted .... ;)

Identity Theft

2008-05-27 17:05:26

I know we decided to be open minded about the things that we
would/could connect to Morgellons. I think, however, that asking people
for their DOB and place of birth goes beyond what I can accept.
Identity theft not only causes horrendous problems with your finances,
now there are instances of mixups in hospitals because of it. The most
recent that I'm aware of it a mixup in blood type. Seems the hospital
didn't recognize the fact that one person was AB and the other O+. Of
course the real person died.
Rita

Re: morg and depression

2008-05-27 10:53:43

YES! I suffered from severe suicidal depression while struggling to
recover from the physical effects of this disease. That plus chronic
fatigue gave me little will to live, much less take care of business. It
was a struggle to survive.
All I can say is getting rid of our furniture and fibrous clothing,
taking bactrim (antibiotic recommended by derma-tech website), dealing
with skin lesions, trying to gain back 45 pounds I lost and moving away
from the parasitic infestation in our apartment (not delusional if 3
people see the same thing, is it?!) were the things that we had to do to
get better. I know not everyone can move, or throw out everything. We
had to. A slumlord's negligence left us homeless, but, in the end, we
are better off today for the pain and suffering -- would like to spare
others the same nightmare. kw

morg and depression

2008-05-26 23:25:34

I can't figuire out if I am depressed because its a side benefit of
morgellons, or if its some chemical imbalance or whatever other
possibilities can cause this. Physically I've been feeling much better
than I did at the onset of morgellons. I am on anti depressants, but
are not helping to pull me out of this dark hole. There is simply
nothing that makes me excited about getting up. This includes seeing
my family, friends, daughter or boyfriend. They all feel like a chore
or a drag.
Do you think morgellons can cause this?
Also I just want to sleep. But I don't know if having morgellons is
making me so tired, or if its because of the depression. What do you
think?
I know you cannot diagnose, but are there more here that struggle with
these things?
shirley

LATEST M-R-O MORGELLONS CONCLUSIONS

2008-05-26 21:53:41

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-conclus.htm
Forgive me if this has already been post, this describes dead on what
I think Morgellons is.

Re: The End of Expenses!

2008-05-26 09:49:55

Does this mean that you haven't been indicted yet???

Thankyou for the warning!

2008-05-26 09:32:40

I didnt understand how stupid it is to give so much info. I took
offense at people first then realized you were only trying to wake me
up! I removed it yesyerday hope it worked.
My friend( and I wont give her name LOL,) was emailed from MRF to be
inerviewed by someone from the media in New Hampshire. They asked her
if the CDC has all her records, wich they do. Her doctors in Boston
found a mite they never saw before and made sure that it got reported.
Sorry I sound so mixed up, had a bad spell with illness last night.
They also mentioned something about moving down south somewhere because
they will hospitalize and study her, she wants me to go with her. I
just might move out of this state soon anyway, Ill have better luck
down south somewhere.
Jay your theories are good, and your opinions on the subject are well
needed, how else we going to figure this out unless we hash it out. I
respect everyone here and value this time conversing with you guys.

MMS and Morgellons

2008-05-26 06:48:14

I have not posted here for a while but this seems to be pretty good news.
I posted this on this site and thread
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2396
1-14-08
I have just started the MMS and have Morgellons, have had for about 2
years now
after 5 days I am up to 9 drops 2x per day and have not seen anything
but I just started a low carb low sugar diet that will help as well I
will report my progress over the next few weeks
I used nutra silver for over a year, I guess it helped, but diet
exercise and vinegar 2 x per day seemed to work as well
I was using Praziquantal before that and it helped a bit, I bought it
by the pound from ornamental fish distributors.
Reply With Quote
1-18-08
I have used nutra silver for over a year at those doses, it does make
the symptoms improve but it does not get rid of these critters, machines..
now I am up to 15 drops in the morning and 11 in the afternoon
I have no lesions or visable fibers but still have some symptoms
so far not much of a change had "D" a couple of days, very little nausea
I will continue to ramp up my dosage, towards 15 drops 3x per day,
should take another week or so.
One thing, I have stopped my other treatments, dewormers etc, and am
not getting worse, which usually happens by now.
1-25-08
Update on my progress using MMS on Morgellons
I have ramped up my dosage to 15 drops at 9 am and 15 drops at 11 am
thereby getting the benefit of 30 drops at once. Some D if this window
is less than 2 hours, I have recently been doing 15 drops before bedtime.
First thing that I noticed was a sore or cyst that I have had on my
skin, behind the left ear (not on the ear but on my head) for over 15
years, and at one time thought it could be cancer, boiled up like a
large pimple, and was sensitive. This alarmed me at fist as this spot
has been dormant for years. Then after a few days it turned into a
scab and was sloughed away, leaving a bit of tough tissue behind.
After a few more days that sloughed off and for the first time in over
15 years the spot feels normal!!!!!!!
On the morgellons issue, I started this with my NMT (The Feinberg
Technique) practitioner that has kept this at bay for over a year.
This is a type of energetic medicine that allows your own body to
recognize the "faults" in your conscious and subconscious that are not
allowing you to heal. It also allows the practitioner to take
measurements of various loads on the body in reference to disease and
progress, microbes, chemicals, organs affected etc.
My session with Dr Rogers yesterday, at the end, we tested to see what
my total draw down over the last 2 weeks has been, if the infectious
agents were at 100% where were we now, the answer was 36%. By Far the
best response of any that I have had using any other method and I have
used them all.
Asking how to get to 0% seemed to included a low sugar carb diet and
keeping the attack on for at least 2 lunar cycles. Seems as though
these critters have several stages and it takes time to wipe them out
completely.
Changes to my diet now, no more wine at dinner, committed to at least
a 90 day low carb schedule.
The symptoms that I had that are gone, the strange worm like or
egglike things in my nose are no longer there. Fibers that were
protruding through the roof of my mouth have mostly retreated. Ichy
burning sensations are mostly gone. Creepy crawly mostly gone.
I am also losing weight, seems I heard this on another thread,
sleeping better.
The combination of using NMT with this protocol along with diet may be
critical here, as well as the length of time this needs to go on.
More info on NMT Feinberg here http://www.neuromodulationtechnique.com/
http://www.drbloem.com/nmt.htm
I will check in every few days to answer any questions, my next NMT
session will be on Feb 8.
My thoughts are that I should get to a 0% load with these critters and
stay there for 2 lunar cycles. This timing also seems to coincide with
Dr Schwartz protocol, which I have done.

Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!

2008-05-26 01:56:23

Ponzi scheme!!!

Re: Fwd: astrology and morgellons (???)

2008-05-25 18:43:17

In an age of identity theft, giving out personal info to strangers or
anyone you meet online, is unwise. Giving out DOB is extremely unwise.
Rita

Re: [Morgellons] Just joined, in Mass.

2008-05-25 07:47:37

Its a some..relife, is it not?..when you talk to other people who is probably going thru same as you. Anyway welcome to have you in our group Natalie.
n_coletti <n_coletti@...

Hi my name is Natalie, my adult kids and I have been ill for 10
years. We lived at apatrment with birds living in walls and dead ones
in cellar once a week. Started as allergies, sinus trouble headache
and stomache pain. Went on to throwing up and rashes. We moved but
unfortunatley took our belongings. All of us including the upstairs
neighbors came down with thyroid problems. Then the severe itching
and red bumps and fine white pappular rash. I made then biopsy for
mites but they found ecoli and fungus. I told docs it felt like mites
only magnified. I reported everything to Board of Health here, the
Hospital the docs, none cared. I started to document everything.
Records, biopsies, cultures, and scans. I sent letters to everyone I
could think of. Noone cared. So I advocated for myself. If indeed
this was a parasite, wich I beelive it is, I got cat flea shampoo, it
worked. I also have to wash down the walls, the floors NO RUGS, NO
animals unfortunatley, the car seats. Wash the clothes in hot bleach
water or Pinesol and hot water. I use Listerine to and water to
cleanse the bacteria out of the nostrils and ear canals. We have so
amy symptoms that include joint pain, muscle pain, fatigue, enlarged
liver( with no aparent reason according to doctors, they are baffled)
Gum infection, tooth loss, hair loss, kidney pain, UTIs, bacterial
vaginosis, Yeast infection of skin. Yes eye problems, yes headaches,
no I cant eat sugar or flour products. I have read and studies and
observed all of this for 1o years. We are passing this back and forth
in my family. I have gotten rid of this!! But, I get it back when I
am with the kids. They are adults and absolutly hate the doctors,
they dont care any more. They drink and smoke way too much. I was so
suicidal a few months ago until I found MRF and I cried so happy! My
ex boy frined brought this to his house. My sister and her kids are
starting to have problems, all of her cats llok ill with a type of
mange, pooping in the house and looking listless. I wont put an
animal through this. I live alone now and am planning to move away
from family so I can get better and help with this disease. Emycin,
flagyl, and diflucan, cat flea shampoo, a vacuum and a sponge. oh
yeah, the wahing machine. Costs too freaking much to have this
illness!! I am spiritual and loving. I love animals and music. I
read alot and play guitar a little to soothe my moods. Im trying to
accept all of this in a gentle manner. Havent always done that! I
flipped out on more docs than you could imagine. I was and am on a
mission. Sorry its long. It hasnt even touched on everything but
wanted to say please take me in? I will try my best to help our
cause. Love Natalie

sorry , got more

2008-05-25 06:47:13

I have also called the CDC so many times, and every news paper I could
think of years ago. Noone took the bait. Either they were afraid of
getting it by interviewing me or they thought I was crazy. I also
forgot the Cysts that are growing in my throat. The other neighbors
from dirty house also have thes cysts. Also some have had granulomas
removed, when biopsied it was sent 3 hospitals in Boston cause noone
knew what it was , turned out to be a strange type of Staphh. Thats
another thing, my kids have had funny feeling throat, docs say YOU dont
have strep, they do a culture and its staphh!! 3 times last year!
Secodary infections. Seems this bug affects all of us a little
differently because of the strenght of the immune system. Mine is weak,
did I say we have a low white blood ct.? When around infested area( my
dirty clothes for one) I get itchy, then I feel their, its a little
white speck, if I dont remove it, it burrows into skin and becomes a
bump or worse a boil, and so itchy. I have holes on soles of feet where
particles of an egg looking crystal type thing . I dig it out. A hole
is left. Or on my belly, where its itchy, I pull it of and a hole with
blood. Sores on my scalp, neck, and shoulders. Mites? I think so.
Thanks again for listening.

Re: [Morgellons] How did yours start?

2008-05-24 15:24:58

Yes, this is most isolating! I will write more later, pretty tired right now, but have been feeling quite alone/lonely-no one wants to hear the latest complication (family or friends) so I just am trying to keep quiet-found out that I have a lesion on my liver and am scheduled for MRI Friday, but could be causing the anemia-My liver function tests come back ok, but went for ultrasound of kidneys due to pain and they found lesions on liver-I am wondering if it resembles a typical morgellons lesion-I am feeling pretty alone and scared-I hate it!

Lori
It was Feb 07 that I began to have "bites" around my wrists and ankles. Now my limbs are dotted with sores and scars of sores. I don't feel very attractive so I've isolated quite a bit.
It was about that time that cats, dogs and horses entered my environment. I'm also an avid gardener, so I was always in the soil all the time. I do think that some of my bites are chiggers, but not all. There's a difference between the bites, or at least I think so. I've seen the exact same bizarre things from the most persistant sores that are in some of the pictures. I've also had 2 dermatologists insist that it was all in my head. Yeah, I just decided to start randomly digging holes in my skin.
I also notice an increase in itching and almost feel things jumping onto me, hands, face, neck when I'm outside or near animals. Now I do as little yard work as possible. The domestic cats and dogs come around. If they get on a chair or the bed, I then feel an increase in "bites". I no longer pet or go near the neighbor's horses. Seems to reduce the incident rate.
Mike in Zephyrhills

Re: No orange/yellow ear wax

2008-05-24 14:29:32

Maybe there is a tear that formed through your eardrum years ago that
never healed and just allows the fluid that can build up in your middle
ear drain out. Has any doctor really checked in there to see if there's
a tear?
I just battled an inner ear infection for a month ..... the doctor told
me to remain on the Pseudofed to dry up the fluid so infection and pain
so it doesn't start up again. On 3 different antibiotics but right now
it feels great.
Wendy

Just joined, in Mass.

2008-05-24 14:26:55

Hi my name is Natalie, my adult kids and I have been ill for 10
years. We lived at apatrment with birds living in walls and dead ones
in cellar once a week. Started as allergies, sinus trouble headache
and stomache pain. Went on to throwing up and rashes. We moved but
unfortunatley took our belongings. All of us including the upstairs
neighbors came down with thyroid problems. Then the severe itching
and red bumps and fine white pappular rash. I made then biopsy for
mites but they found ecoli and fungus. I told docs it felt like mites
only magnified. I reported everything to Board of Health here, the
Hospital the docs, none cared. I started to document everything.
Records, biopsies, cultures, and scans. I sent letters to everyone I
could think of. Noone cared. So I advocated for myself. If indeed
this was a parasite, wich I beelive it is, I got cat flea shampoo, it
worked. I also have to wash down the walls, the floors NO RUGS, NO
animals unfortunatley, the car seats. Wash the clothes in hot bleach
water or Pinesol and hot water. I use Listerine to and water to
cleanse the bacteria out of the nostrils and ear canals. We have so
amy symptoms that include joint pain, muscle pain, fatigue, enlarged
liver( with no aparent reason according to doctors, they are baffled)
Gum infection, tooth loss, hair loss, kidney pain, UTIs, bacterial
vaginosis, Yeast infection of skin. Yes eye problems, yes headaches,
no I cant eat sugar or flour products. I have read and studies and
observed all of this for 1o years. We are passing this back and forth
in my family. I have gotten rid of this!! But, I get it back when I
am with the kids. They are adults and absolutly hate the doctors,
they dont care any more. They drink and smoke way too much. I was so
suicidal a few months ago until I found MRF and I cried so happy! My
ex boy frined brought this to his house. My sister and her kids are
starting to have problems, all of her cats llok ill with a type of
mange, pooping in the house and looking listless. I wont put an
animal through this. I live alone now and am planning to move away
from family so I can get better and help with this disease. Emycin,
flagyl, and diflucan, cat flea shampoo, a vacuum and a sponge. oh
yeah, the wahing machine. Costs too freaking much to have this
illness!! I am spiritual and loving. I love animals and music. I
read alot and play guitar a little to soothe my moods. Im trying to
accept all of this in a gentle manner. Havent always done that! I
flipped out on more docs than you could imagine. I was and am on a
mission. Sorry its long. It hasnt even touched on everything but
wanted to say please take me in? I will try my best to help our
cause. Love Natalie

Indiana News Video

2008-05-24 03:16:02

Here is the news Video:
Yes it's short but no delusional aspect.
I like the way Jackie say "FINALLY" the CDC
has decided to investigate.
http://tristatehomepage.com/content/fulltext/?cid=4333
Prior to the story,
I asked her if it was one of the stories that leaned toward
delusions and she
said the doctor interviews seemed very sympathetic.
THen I asked her if she could add that there are cases right here in
INDIANA and
not ONLY those HOT SPOTS. She said she could do it.
Jackie Monroe deserves a big THANK YOU
for boldly stating the CDC doesn't want to cause
panic and that this morgellons is EVERYWHERE.
jmonroe @ wtvw.com
AFTER the Story aired I received this email From Jackie,
Oh- forgot to tell you. A woman called and said
she has it. And she was
estatic to see it on the news.
Now, her doctor
identified it right away and
didn't treat her poorly.
(probably after the CDC announcement
and now with it being on the local news,
this woman can prove to her family/friends
who doubted her)
GOOD NEWS HERE FOR US SUFFERERS IN THE REST
OF JACKIE's EMAIL..............she states:
Our reporter Jamie
Weiss took the call and
really wants to do a follow up with this gal.
I told her how ugly most people get treated by
medical professionals and
said you might be able to offer some of the
darker side of how people get
treated.
Email her at: Jweiss@ wtvw.com (if you like.)
I think we should all mail Jamie Weiss our horror
stories and let her know our location so it can
be known how widespread this really is. I would
suggest just letting CDC come up with what this
is and not bother Jamie with our "theories", but
definately tell her how damaged your life became
That is the story she wants to portray. Why we
all were treated so badly.
Thank you and please Thank Jackie for doing the story
and her honesty about the CDC downplaying the magnification
of it's devastation.
Jackie's email is jmonroe @wtvw.com

No orange/yellow ear wax

2008-05-23 21:00:48

I know this is dumb but I've had only a clear liquid coming from my
ears for years. Other than the color, there doesn't seem to be any
associated problems. If I remember correctly, they told me at my LLMD's
office, that it's not Lyme. Does anyone else have it or know anything
about it?
Rita

How did yours start?

2008-05-23 19:40:50

It was Feb 07 that I began to have "bites" around my wrists and ankles. Â Now my limbs are dotted with sores and scars of sores. Â I don't feel very attractive so I've isolated quite a bit.

It was about that time that cats, dogs and horses entered my environment. Â I'm also an avid gardener, so I was always in the soil all the time. Â I do think that some of my bites are chiggers, but not all. Â There's a difference between the bites, or at least I think so. Â I've seen the exact same bizarre things from the most persistant sores that are in some of the pictures. Â I've also had 2 dermatologists insist that it was all in my head. Â Yeah, I just decided to start randomly digging holes in my skin.

I also notice an increase in itching and almost feel things jumping onto me, hands, face, neck when I'm outside or near animals. Â Now I do as little yard work as possible. Â The domestic cats and dogs come around. Â If they get on a chair or the bed, I then feel an increase in "bites". Â I no longer pet or go near the neighbor's horses. Â Seems to reduce the incident rate.

Mike in Zephyrhills

Federal Pandemic Plans....don't look good

2008-05-23 08:45:28

http://tinyurl.com/2z9c46
ACLU sees coercive theme in federal pandemic plans
Lisa Schnirring Staff Writer
Jan 18, 2008 (CIDRAP News) The American Civil Liberties Union
(ACLU) this week charged that federal pandemic planning efforts rely
too heavily on law enforcement and national security approaches, in
effect making people, not disease, the enemy.
The ACLU aired its concerns in a report authored by three prominent
public health law attorneys and released Jan 14 at a press
conference in Washington, DC. The authors are George Annas and Wendy
K. Mariner from the Boston University School of Public Health and
Wendy E. Parmet of Northeastern Law School.
The report discusses a wide range of privacy protections and other
civil liberties that the ACLU believes might be threatened in a
pandemic setting. The authors include a list of recommendations
intended to focus pandemic planning efforts more toward community
engagement, as well as an appendix that covers a number of
constitutional issues that could surface during a pandemic.
"A law enforcement approach is just the wrong tool for the job when
it comes to fighting disease," said Barry Steinhardt, director of
the ACLU's technology and liberty program, in a Jan 14 press
release. He said history shows that a coercive approach to pandemic
that treats sick people as enemies is ineffective from a public
health perspective.
But a spokesman for the US Department of Health and Human Services
(HHS) says the group has mischaracterized the government's efforts.
Also, other critics with expertise in public health and the law say
the ACLU report is marred by a misunderstanding of government
response plans.
In the past, President George W. Bush has suggested that federal
officials may need to quarantine regions of the country if localized
outbreaks of pandemic flu occur, according to previous reports. In
October 2005, he suggested expanding presidential power over state-
run National Guard operations to implement quarantines during a
pandemic.
Bush said that such executive power during a pandemic was an
important topic for Congress to debate, according to a previous
CIDRAP News report. "Congress needs to take a look at circumstances
that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond
that debate. And one such catastrophe, or one such challenge, could
be an avian flu outbreak," he said at an Oct 4, 2005, press
conference.
In April 2005, Bush signed an executive order that authorized adding
pandemic influenza to a federal list of diseases that can lead to
quarantine.
All-hazards approach critiqued
The ACLU authors assert that an all-hazards approach to disaster
planningone based on the assumption that the same preparedness
model can be applied to any kind of disaster, whether biological,
chemical, explosive, natural, or nuclearhas steered federal
officials into assuming worst-case scenarios. "All of the plans rely
heavily on a punitive approach and emphasize extreme measures such
as quarantine and forced treatment," they wrote.
As a recent example, the attorneys pointed to the events of last
spring when the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
issued its first domestic isolation order in 40 years for Atlanta
attorney Andrew Speaker, who was traveling abroad when tests
suggested he had extensively drug-resistant tuberculosis (XDR TB).
They wrote that the CDC's order prompted Speaker to take evasive
actions that could have exposed other travelers. "In the case of an
epidemic, the same evasive behavior seen here in one man would
likely be replicated on a mass scale that would undermine the goal
of stopping the disease," the ACLU report states.
The report also raises concerns over the October 2007 presidential
directive on public health and medical preparedness, which
establishes a prominent role for the Department of Homeland Security
(DHS) in public health disaster management, incorporates Department
of Defense expertise and resources into disaster management, and
calls for a national biosurveillance system. The ACLU argues that a
biosurveillance system that is too broad could erode the privacy of
all patients.
"More ominously, the participation of military and homeland security
officials in this public health venture raises questions about how
the information will be used," the authors wrote.
HHS says report is off target
However, HHS spokesman Bill Hall told CIDRAP News that the ACLU
experts have misunderstood the federal government's pandemic plans.
They have focused too much on containment efforts that the
government may or may not use to stamp out the virus in a local area
at the earliest stage of a pandemic, he said. Some pandemic flu
experts have said containment shouldn't even be attempted at the
early stage, because they doubt such an effort would work, Hall
said.
Government officials solidly support voluntary quarantine as an
effective community mitigation strategy, he said. "SARS [severe
acute respiratory syndrome] was a public health success story," Hall
said. "But the word 'quarantine' conjures up images of soldiers and
a police state that are hard images to get out of people's minds."
Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH, said he doesn't think health
officials will be able to contain an emerging pandemic and that the
ACLU report misses the mark because it doesn't seem to consider
aspects of the federal plan outside of initial containment. "Is this
a law enforcement based approach? It's not, no way," said Osterholm,
who is director of the University of Minnesota Center for Infectious
Disease Research and Policy, publisher of CIDRAP News.
However, Osterholm said he agrees with the ACLU's criticism of the
government's emphasis on an all-hazards approach to disaster
preparedness. Planning for a pandemic presents many unique
challenges, he said. For example, the long duration of a severe
pandemic, unlike a disaster such as the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
would lead to a collapse of the nation's just-in-time economy,
Osterholm said.
Steven Gravely, a public health law expert who is a partner and head
of the healthcare practice group at Troutman Sanders, a law firm in
Richmond, Va., said he doesn't think the ACLU report is a fair
assessment of the nation's pandemic planning efforts. "It focuses
too much on the federal level and doesn't recognize that disaster
responsepandemics, particularlyis handled by several governments:
local, state, tribal, federal, and international," Gravely told
CIDRAP News.
"What jumped out at me is their discussion of quarantine and
isolation," he said. "Though they characterize the federal plan as
militaristic, 95% of isolation and quarantine is done at the state
level. Federal involvement in quarantine is extremely limited."
Even in the Andrew Speaker case, the federal isolation order was in
force for just a few days, and then the state of Colorado took over,
Gravely said.
State emergency powers cause concern
The ACLU report raises concern about CDC support for a Model State
Emergency Powers Act, drafted after the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
describing it as a tool for states to broaden isolation and
quarantine powers in a public health emergency. "The Act used fear
to justify methods better suited to quelling public riots than
protecting public health," the experts wrote.
Gravely commented in response, "I think what the ACLU report misses
is that every state in the union had quarantine laws before 9/11.
Some older laws were exceptionally broad or ineffective. But some
changes have actually put limits on the laws." For example, he said
Virginia amended its quarantine law to incorporate some of the
concerns raised by the ACLU experts, such as by providing that
quarantine powers take effect only when other measures fail and that
patients have a right to legal counsel.
"Most states, as they updated their laws, incorporated due process,"
Gravely said.
Gravely said he applauded the ACLU report, "but it would have been
more useful if it reflected the reality." For example, the report
implies that an all-hazards approach to federal disaster planning
has side-stepped pandemic-specific needs, he said. However, he
observed that the community mitigation guidance HHS issued for
states adjusts nonpharmaceutical interventions according to pandemic
severity.
Medical privacy issues raised by the ACLU experts are important,
Gravely said. "They have captured that we need to be vigilant in
balancing privacy in broad-based surveillance."
Gravely said a major overhaul of medical privacy legislation in 1996
that produced the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability
Act (HIPAA) contains a number of exceptions to privacy protections,
one of which is public health reporting. Concern about how states
will use medical surveillance information is a valid policy issue,
but there is no evidence that states are misusing such information,
he said.
Hall said the ACLU's recommendations include several items the
federal government is already working on. One example is the
pandemic vaccine prioritization draft plan, on which federal
officials have held town hall forums and sought extensive public
feedback.
Some of the ACLU's other pandemic preparedness recommendations
include:
Developing rapid, accurate diagnostic tests to reduce errors in
identifying people who have infectious diseases
Focusing on community engagement for pandemic preparations rather
than individual responsibility
Providing food, medicine, and supplies to people who stay home
during a pandemic
Detaining individuals, when absolutely necessary, in medical
facilities rather than correctional facilities
Ensuring due process and the right to legal counsel for individuals
who are proposed for isolation or restricted from travel.
See also:
Jan 14 ACLU press release
Jan 14 ACLU report on pandemic preparedness
Oct 4, 2005, CIDRAP News story "Bush suggests military-enforced
quarantines for avian flu"
Oct 22, 2007, CIDRAP News story "White House aims to transform
public health preparedness"
Feb 1, 2007, CIDRAP News story "HHS ties pandemic mitigation advice
to severity"

Video Conferences regarding Privacy and Pandemics

2008-05-23 07:17:36

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/25551res20060512.html
watch the video on that site,,,,,,,,,,,,admitting to use on humans
scroll down page
THERE ARE MANY VIDOE'S ON THIS site
Notice the ones that were put together just before
the CDC announcement.
Scroll down the site to find video conferences
and various topics on civil rights/privacy
June 12, 2007, 9:30 AM
ACLU Washington Legislative Offices
915 15th St. NW, 6th Floor
Washington, DC
Of Mice and Men Divided by Ten:
EPA's New Rules for Testing Pesticides in Humans
View Complete Video of the Forum (.wmv): Part 1 and Part 2.

Speak up --- Questions being taken

2008-05-22 23:23:47

The reporter for the Washington Post Morgellons
article will field questions and comments, along with
MRF board member Douglas Buckner and dermatology
professor Jeffrey Meffert.
The article is post dated Jan. 22, 2008, so it looks
as if on Tuesday Brigid Schulte will moderate a live
text-based discussion online at 2:00 pm.
Here are Tuesday's Sessions:
There will be no programming Monday due to the holiday.
Tuesday's Sessions
Politics: Michael Abramowitz, 11
Fitness: Ask the MisFits, 11
Energy Bill: Impact, 11
Fashion: D'Amato & Kelly, 11
How to Deal: Lily Garcia, 11
NFL Insider: Mark Maske, 11
Outlook: Myths of Recession, 12
What's Cooking: Kim O'Donnel, 12
Funny?: Gene Weingarten, 12
Iraq Policy: War College Prof., 12
The Oscars: Nominees, 12:30
Opinion: Eugene Robinson, 1
Lean Plate Club: Sally Squires, 1
Station Break: Paul Farhi, 1
K Street: Jeffrey Birnbaum, 1
Science: Curbing Climate Change, 1
Chat House: Michael Wilbon, 1:15
Freedom Rock: du Lac, 2
Careers: Mary Ellen Slayter, 2
Magazine: Morgellons Disease, 2
Book World: E.J. Dionne Jr., 3
This may be a good chance to ask those questions that
have been gnawing away at your patience, for some kind
of substantive results in the quest for the Morgellons final
solution.
http://tinyurl.com/2uokta
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/discussion/2008/01/17/DI2008011701435.html?
sid=ST2008011801924
Here's how to ask a question or comment, right now or wait
until Tuesday at 2:00 and do it live.
http://tinyurl.com/36swsz
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
srv/admin/help/popup/frame_pageLIVEONLINE.html

Daily kos

2008-05-22 12:30:15

I am a member Neil of the daily Kos someone like yourself need to blogg there I am not very good with the computer this would open this crap up sky high very connected democrates including senators and congressmen read and respond regulaly please write me back karen bryant

Re: Dr Harvey on morgellons and mutant worms

2008-05-22 12:07:22

Niels, thanks for posting this.
I hope this guy can get published, as it will light a fire under the
current research projects.
I don't know what games are being played in the California CDC group,
but it really does sound like a smoke screen to me. The thing NOT to
do is to imply some horrible conspiracy that will make it easy for
them to say we are all nuts. That will give them a reason to stop
research and cut the funding.
At one time, perhaps a year or more ago, I was all over the medical
sights on the web, looking for worm information, or maybe a doctor's
name.
I forget where I saw this or what it was called, but I saw an article
about a worm that travelled under the skin which was shaped something
like a tadpole, with a bulbous head on one side and a tail at the
end. The victim said she could actually see them as moving lumps
under the skin.
There are all sorts of worms and we might not all have the same
infestations.
I think common things like soil contamination is a good place to
start. Creatures die in the soil. Long after the little bodies are
gone, there must be parasitic eggs left at the sight. Considering
how long these things can survive, it makes sense that if a person
were digging in the wrong spot he could self-contaminate.
I was digging a garden, part of which was on a small hill, and my
shovel hit an underground rock. I went tumbling backwards and know I
got some dirt in my mouth.
Also to consider is, if we take worming drugs regularly and do not
see immediate, miraculous results, how can the farmer have amy
assurance that his cattle are worm free if he is merely following
label directions in treating his stock? I realize that with drugs
other than fenbendazole it is more easy to overdose.
Food migrates all over the country.
I do not see these forums showing a flurry of new activity. If this
thing were all that contagious one would expect a geometic
progression of cases.
It is as though many of us old, lingering, cases found the web,
signed up, and now there are just occasional new people wandering
in. It's not as though new cases are getting better treatment with
their doctors (or maybe some are)?
I don't think it hurts to ring the public pandemic fear bell every
now and again, just to get research attention and dollars, though.
For all it is worth, I still am 98% certain that we will witness a
breakthrough, if not in the cause, at least with a cure.
Remember that scientific research walks a tightrope. Before a
breakthrough is published in a presigious journal, and in the name of
one doctor or group, ideas can be easily stolen. This often means
that study groups must be closed-mouthed until they can publish their
findings.
This also indicates that perhaps what the CDC is saying an what they
are actually doing may be two different things.
Thank you for your never tiring perserverence of this, Niels.

Re: Fwd: CDC/Kaiser 'Groundbreaking',Morgellons Study A Fraud!

2008-05-21 21:33:17

Kaiser never had any intention of finding Morgellons exists. If it
did they'd have to pay to treat it. They're treating Morgellons
patients the same way they treat Lyme patients. "It doesn't exist and
you don't have it."
I'd like to find one person who works at Kaiser who has a conscience.
Rita

Fwd: CDC/Kaiser 'Groundbreaking',Morgellons Study A Fraud!

2008-05-21 19:34:22

http://rense.com/general80/fraudf.htm
rense.com
CDC/Kaiser 'Groundbreaking'
Morgellons Study A Fraud!
By Cliff Mickelson
CMicke1065@...
1-19-8
Much sound and fury is currently being generated by mainstream media concerning
the recent CDC announcement that Kaiser Permanente has been selected by the CDC
to conduct a "groundbreaking" study into the causes and nature of what the CDC
and Kaiser both euphemistically (and erroneously) term Morgellons "syndrome."
In the opening news conference statement to the press, The CDC's principle
investigator
Dr. Michele Pearson, with his Kaiser counterpart, Dr. Joe Selby at his side,
sets the tone for a CDC position on this issue that can only be described as
disingenuous at best.
"There is insufficient information," intones Dr. Pearson, "to determine whether
persons who identify themselves as having this condition, have common cause for
their symptoms or may share common risk factors."
This statement speaks volumes. One can only suppose that the good doctor is
either stunningly under-informed or is a deliberate liar. In light of readily
available information that has come into the possession of this writer, Dr.
Pearson and his friends over at Kaiser Permanente appear to be fully informed as
to
the scope and nature of this affliction.
Furthermore, the CDC is quite clearly aware that there already exists a large
body of professional Morgellons research that has been done under the organized
auspices of former Morgellons Research Foundation scientist Dr. Randy Wymore.
Dr.Wymore, the current head of Morgellons research at the prestigious school of
pharmacology at Oklahoma State University, has personally briefed CDC officials
in the past. Nonetheless, the Atlanta based organization showed very little
interest in the subject of Morgellons or in Dr. Wymore's revolutionary findings
concerning the growing danger this affliction poses to society at large.
The CDC is also aware that there exists a large compendium of additional work
available for referencing. A great deal of research has been performed in the
last
few years by a select number of other professionally qualified medical-field
researchers including such well known notables as Dr.William Harvey, Dr
Hildegard
Stannigar, and Dr. Rahim Karjoo
In his opening CDC press conference statement Dr. Pearson uses the term "common
risk factors" as a descriptive term... For those who are the uninitiated, that
is CDC doublespeak for drug abuse or delusional mental illness.
This denigrating and underhanded remark is a direct slap in the face of
Morgellons patients, many of whom are children, senior citizens, teachers,
nurses or
other medical professionals. Such eye-opening statements belie the truth behind
the thought processes taking place in the halls of the CDC. They give the
astute observer an inkling of what lays in store for "Morgies" who are trusting
enough to ignore the telegraphed meaning of such implied signals.
For reasons they have apparently chosen not to make public, the CDC has
therefore deliberately decided to ignore, negate and suppress the considerable
body of
nearly three years worth of ongoing, highly qualified field work by others
outside the CDC nexus. They have chosen instead to form an unholy alliance with
the
largest HMO/insurer in the world, Kaiser Permanente.
By marginalizing professional research that has already taken place during the
CDC's long and curious absence from the Morgellons issue, they are now seen to
be suddenly setting themselves up as the sole judge of any consequence in the
public eye. This is a very dangerous and powerful position for an organization
with a track record like the CDC to be allowed to place itself in. Morgellons
sufferers had best beware.
In what is probably the biggest conflict of interest since convicted felon Henry
Blodget was hired as a Wall Street securities analyst, the Kaiser "fox" is now
being given the keys to the CDC's hen house. In return, it appears that the CDC
expects the obliging chickens to gratefully invite him in for dinner.
It may well be that the CDC announcement concerning the much ballyhooed
Morgellons research grant is little more than self-serving bureaucratic sound
and
fury...or it may be that a much darker and deadlier game is being played. A
cursory study of the CDC's woeful lack of past interaction with the Morgellons
community will open a Pandora's box of questions that beg answers .
There is little doubt that the CDC knows how to play the political game. Based
on past experience, many Morgies are of the opinion that the Kaiser "study" is
little more than under-funded pork, a shuck, a jive, political chicanery and, at
worst, a cynical lip service designed to throw a fog over the clever
methodology of how bureaucracies with something to hide engage in issue
assassination.
So why, we might wonder, would the Mandarins of the CDC engage in such
transparently duplicitous behavior? Why would they spend hard earned tax dollars
for
information that already exists and could be had with a simple conference call
or two? Well, the answer is at once simple and yet Byzantine.
It is germane to note that by their own malfeasant admission, over the last
eight years the CDC has received thousands upon thousands of requests for help
from
Morgellons victims. All of these pleas, until now, fell upon deaf ears. Not one
red cent was ever spent to determine what it was that was taking place not only
across America but around the world as well. Meanwhile the CDC has spent
millions of taxpayer dollars on an unending parade of fizzled "non-event"
epidemics
that have come and gone during that same time frame. A number of these high
dollar non-event epidemics affected less than a dozen people across the country
while others never materialized at all!
As the white rabbit would say: Curiouser and curiouser!
Now, at the behest of the Morgellons study, the CDC is dipping into the trough
of public tax dollars once again. This time however, the bucket has come up
woefully short. A pitiful $360 K is all that is earmarked for this study!
Let's think about that for a moment. $360 K is less than the price of an average
split-level home in Los Angeles County. What will 360 K buy in today's world
of bloated research budgets? The salaries of the research staff alone should
total more than that. What can we assume will be the cost of high technology
tests and other high tech equipment needed to insure accurate Morgellons test
results? Modern research tests can easily run into the hundreds of thousands of
dollars. Private researcher, Dr.Hildegaard Stannigar, reports that she has
independently spent $39,000 of private money on such tests and that many more
tests
are still in need of performing.
It doesn't take an accountant to figure out that three hundred and sixty
thousand dollars is not going to buy much in the way of a reliable
study...and..It
doesn't take a Weatherman to figure out which way the wind is blowing in the
halls of the CDC.
Morgellons activists need to wake up and smell the coffee. The CDC has no
intention of solving the Morgellons mystery. Those who think otherwise need to
review
the history of the CDC's hostile and dismissive interaction with the Morgellons
community over the span of the last eight to ten years. Under modest scrutiny it
becomes painfully apparent that this study is a farce and a fraud.
What it is actually being sold to the gullible among us is smoke and mirrors.
For a variety of hidden reasons the CDC is offering up the public expedient of
having done their "part."
Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the daggers are being sharpened in the dark
hallways of Kaiser and the CDC. Morgellons victims who, in their current
desperation,
rush to embrace these bureaucratic assassins of Faith and Hope would do well to
wear extra body armor.
-Cliff Mickelson

Dr Harvey on morgellons and mutant worms

2008-05-21 19:25:35

The interesting washington post article on morgellons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/AR2008011603134_\
5.html?sid=ST2008011801924
has some new info on Dr. Harvey's findings suggested in
http://nielsmayer.com/roller/NielsMayer/entry/morgellons_discovery_cure
theories one step farther. He says he became interested in Morgellons research
after successfully battling chronic fatigue syndrome and made it his mission to
find cures for such unexplained illnesses.
research to appear in a top-notch, peer-reviewed journal such as the Lancet.
"This may be the story of the century," he says. A semi-retired doctor in
Colorado Springs who spent most of his career working in space medicine for the
Johnson Space Center, Harvey says he may have found not only why Morgellons
patients would both scratch and act strange, but also what could be the "genesis
of probably most chronic human illnesses," such as autism, obesity, chronic
fatigue and bipolar disorder.
the soil as well as in the guts or lungs of about half the animals on the
planet, mutated somewhere in the 1970s in Southeast Asia and jumped from animals
to humans. The parasite is easily spread through the fecal-oral route if
someone, for example, is out working in the garden, fails to wash his or her
hands thoroughly and then eats an orange. Or it gets into the lungs by inhaling
sputum or by kissing. The worm then takes up residence in the colon, Harvey
theorizes, and the body's immune system holds it in check.
happens, Harvey hypothesizes, after a human is infected with a strain of
bacteria first reported in 1986, Chlamydophila pneumonia. These bacteria like to
live in immune cells, Harvey says, and they feast on those cells' energy. With
the host's immune system compromised, the mutant nematodes begin reproducing
exponentially, Harvey suspects. They burrow a hole in the wall of the colon,
then usually travel at night through the bloodstream or the lymphatic system or
crawl in hordes between the layers of the skin, like other species of nematodes
are known to do, to the parts of the body with the most blood flow: the face,
head and nose. There, a cranial nerve leads right into the brain. A pileup of
worms could jam blood and oxygen flow to the brain, Harvey says. "That may
explain the psychological symptoms," including the hallucinations, he says.
She said that a huge bump had appeared on the side of her skull in the middle of
the night. By morning, she said, the bump was gone, but she could feel crawling
all over her face. She wasn't making it up, she swore. And she put her
stepsister, with whom she's been living since she got out of the state hospital,
on the phone. "I can see them. They're moving down from her head to her eye,"
said Karen DeWeese. "They're about one and a half inches long and a half-inch
wide. They look like bubbles under the skin." The ER doctor later found nothing.
calls cuticles, that these worms shed at five stages as they grow from egg to
larvae to adult. The red fibers are the males, he says. Blue fibers are female.
"Using a 2,000-power microscope, you can see inside them," he says. "They look
like little stovepipes to me. I can tell the blue ones are female because
there's a kink in the middle for the sexual organs and some kind of pouch. And
we have pictures of them laying thousands of eggs."
from the mental institution," Harvey says. "But the fact is that this is a real
disease, and it appears to be growing."

I was on KTVU TV yesterday

2008-05-21 09:56:09

Here's the link to that report ... This station was the first ever to
report on our disease. I also want you all to pay attention when John
Fowler mentions that a nematode has been discovered associated with our
disease. Also when they show my legs in the video, THOSE WERE TAKEN 4
YEARS AGO!!!!!!! I no longer have any lesions! I couldn't believe what
I looked like back then .... Our brain fog can actually help in that
situation! My one statement was sort of taken out of context about why
I don't believe that they may not be able to help us. That was in
reference to thier Lyme Disease denial stance and since many have that
and Morgellons too we may well remain ill and labled DOP.
Dr. Selby seems sort of flippant I was told that he is dead serious and
commited to this study.
http://www.ktvu.com/video/9267695/index.html
Rita, Fenbendazole can cause liver problems but is considered pretty
safe? I have a liver function test every 4-6 months as I'm on a drug
that can have terrible effects on the liver. I also saw my doctor
yesterday and he told me that all of my results concerning my bloodwork
were GREAT! He also knows that I take the fenbendazole and cautions me
but it has worked so well, believe me!
It has been November 2006 that I have been taking it at a somewhat low
dosage.
Wendy

CDC to launch study

2008-05-20 21:21:32

http://www.videonewswire.com/cdc/45169/event.html
click on audio
also news storys written after the audio
http://tinyurl.com/289dxj

GMA -Morgellons

2008-05-20 15:37:20

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Health/story?id=4142695&page=1

CDC to Investigate Morgellons Mystery

Sufferers Say Mysterious Colored Fibers Grow on Their Skin, Like Hair

Anne Dill
Those living with Morgellons disease describe a mysterious fibrous material running through their skin. (ABC )
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced today that it is launching a study to learn about an unexplained condition that causes people to feel as if they have foreign substances growing from their bodies.
People with the condition, referred to as Morgellons disease, say they have fibers and other inorganic material growing out of their skin.
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"We earnestly want to learn more about this unexplained illness, which affects the lives of those who suffer from it," said Dr. Michele Pearson, principal investigator leading the study for the CDC, in a press release. "Those who suffer have questions, and we want to help them."
"We have a team of epidemiologists, laboratorians and pathologists to carry out the study," Pearson said.
The study will be conducted in conjunction with Kaiser Permanente's Northern California Division of Research. For more information, CLICK HERE to visit the CDC's Unexplained Dermopathy Web site.
Watch the story tonight on "Nightline" at 11:35 p.m. ET and "Good Morning America" Thursday at 7 a.m.
In 2006, a number of Morgellons sufferers told ABC News in interviews that when they consulted doctors, they received diagnoses they called wrong or dismissive. Brandi Koch, the wife of former Major League Baseball player Billy Koch, said that she felt as if she were living in a horror movie, claiming she had colored fibers coming out of her skin.
Koch, of Clearwater Beach, Fla., said that her life was good until one day in the shower when she noticed something strange -- tiny fibers running through her skin.
"The fibers look like hair, and they're different colors," Koch said.
Koch said she knows that what she experienced "sounds crazy," but it's true. "If I had a family member call me up and say, 'I have this stuff,' I'd say, 'I'm sending a straitjacket over. You need some help,'" she said.
Anne Dill described a similar condition. Looking at Dill's life in Florida, she seemed to be living the American dream -- her three daughters excelled in sports and were straight-A students.
But life in the Dill household was far from idyllic. Anne's 40-year-old husband, Tom, died in January 2006, and she believes his death was due to a contagious illness that has infected her entire family.
Dill described her family's skin: "There's this fibrous material. It's in layers." Dill said the skin on their hands was particularly bad, very swollen and itchy, and said it felt as if bugs were crawling underneath the skin.

Consulting Doctors

Dr. Greg Smith of Gainesville, Ga., has been a pediatrician for the past 30 years. He claimed that a fiber was coming out of his big toe, and he had video footage to prove it.
"It felt like somebody stuck a pin in my toe and wiggled it, and it just continued to hurt," Smith told ABC News in 2006.
He said he never thought he had bugs. "I've certainly had those crawling sensations, and the fibers which come out of the skin are really bizarre, and really odd."
Smith was handed over to a hospital psychiatrist when he went to the emergency room complaining of a fiber in his eye. He admits that he, too, would be skeptical if a patient came to him with the same story.
"I would wonder if they'd taken their medicine that day. It makes no sense. It's totally bizarre. It's something that -- just telling the story is so outlandish on the face of it -- that no one would believe it," Smith said. Dill's doctor told her to stop scratching, even though many of her sores were in places she could not reach.
Koch went to the Mayo Clinic, where doctors didn't believe that the fibers she'd brought them had grown from her body.
"I saw the infectious disease doctor, and I showed him some samples that I had and he snickered," she said. "I can't go through another doctor blowing me off or looking at me like I'm crazy. I know I'm not."
Dr. Vincent DeLeo, chief of dermatology at New York's St. Lukes-Roosevelt Medical Center, weighed in on what he'd say to someone who came to him with this condition. "I don't think this is any different than many patients I've seen who have excoriations and believe that there is something in their skin causing this," he told ABC News in 2006.
DeLeo said the open lesions were most likely a result of scratching the skin.

Relying on Your Own Research

But biologist Mary Leitao refused to accept the medical skepticism surrounding Morgellons.
Leitao's son, Drew, was just 2 years old when Leitao noticed an odd sore on his lip that would not heal.
"He very simply said 'bugs,' and he pointed to his lips," said Leitao.
Leitao never expected to find herself at the center of a medical storm. But when her son complained about the strange sore, the biologist, who once ran the electron microscope at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, did what any scientist would do. She took a closer look.
CDC to Investigate Morgellons Mystery

The Canadian Press: CDC to study of Morgellons, ailment in which fibres said to erupt from skin

2008-05-20 15:15:55

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hqizQxwH5XHP3USaGfMlI31xd8IA
Mysterious threads or fibres breaking through the skin or the sensation of
insects crawling under it. Sores that won't heal. Impaired concentration and
short-term memory loss.
Canada, Australia and Europe apparently have suffered from this puzzling
constellation of ailments, which has come to be known as Morgellons Syndrome or
just plain Morgellons.
insurance provider, is embarking on a study to try to get a handle on a
condition skeptics dismiss as a delusion and the agency itself isn't yet ready
to call a disease.
experiencing," Dr. Michele Pearson, the CDC scientist who will head the project,
said Wednesday during a teleconference announcing the launch of the study.
an unexplained illness. That clearly the suffering that these patients
experience is real."
States, public health authorities in Canada - particularly British Columbia -
have been contacted occasionally by people who say they suffer from it.
the agency is monitoring scientific research on the topic and will keep an eye
on the CDC efforts. He said the agency has received a couple of communications
from people who say they suffer from the condition.
same time, science and medicine demand certain protocols be followed when it
comes to investigating anything."
said. "We are certain that this study will not provide answers to all of the
questions. This may be one of many studies that will need to be done on this
condition."
condition, the range of symptoms they experience and look for clues to factors
that might contribute to it, Pearson said.
Kaiser Permanente's Northern California division of research and the U.S. Armed
Forces Institute of Pathology.
medical care for Morgellons-like symptoms from Kaiser Permanente in Northern
California from July 1, 2006 to the end of 2007.
for Morgellons. Dr. Joe Selby, director of the division of research, said the
area has one of the highest rates of self-reported cases in the United States.
questionnaire. Selby said a number of those people with "active symptoms" will
be invited to undergo an extensive physical and psychological examination that
will include taking skin biopsies, blood and urine samples.
anxious for answers. But she suggested it would be at least 12 months before any
evidence starts to emerge and longer before a fuller picture comes into focus.

The Associated Press: U.S. to Study Bizarre Medical Condition

2008-05-20 10:13:59

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gZsY1Xwnj5nAxnvcOybNTgFmLRbwD8U77U580
erupt on your skin, mysterious threads pop out of them, and you feel like tiny
bugs are crawling all over you. Some experts believe it's a psychiatric
phenomenon, yet hundreds of people say it's a true physical condition. It's
called Morgellons, and now the government is about to begin its first medical
study of it.
health care giant Kaiser Permanente $338,000 to test and interview patients
suffering from Morgellons' bizarre symptoms. The one-year effort will attempt to
define the condition and better determine how common it is.
reports of Morgellons (pronounced mor-GELL-uns). Researchers will begin
screening for patients immediately, CDC officials said Wednesday. A Kaiser
official expects about 150 to 500 study participants.
the sensation of bugs crawling over them and perhaps worst of all mysterious
red, blue or black fibers that sprout from their skin. They've documented their
suffering on Web sites.
psychological evaluations, said Dr. Michele Pearson, who leads a CDC task force
overseeing the study.
customers living mainly in the Sacramento and San Francisco areas and as far
south as Fresno.
condition is not a psychiatric one, says there is distrust by some Morgellons
sufferers toward the new study.
like the way they've been treated by Kaiser doctors and probably won't
participate, said Wymore, who formerly was a research director for a patient
group and hears constantly from Morgellons patients.
excluded from participation, even if a doctor previously determined the problem
was psychological, said Dr. Joe Selby, director of research for Kaiser
Permanente Northern California.
last 18 months reported Morgellons-like symptoms. They will be asked to
participate in more medical evaluations.
Institute of Pathology, Selby said. Doctors who believe the condition is
psychiatric suspect fibers are likely just threads from clothing.
Morgellons patients for well over a year, and was urged to investigate by U.S.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California and others.
until 2002, when "Morgellons" was chosen from a 1674 medical paper describing
similar symptoms.

CDC Launches Morgellons Study on Unexplained Skin Disease - Associated Content

2008-05-20 06:51:16

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/546171/cdc_launches_morgellons_study_on\
_unexplained.html
is as of yet unknown. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
announced today that they will work in conjunction with Kaiser Permanente's
Northern California Division of Research over the next twelve or more months to
clarify symptoms and to attempt to identify risk factors.
biting, or "pins and needles" covering their skin, as well as joint pain. Many
also have lesions that do not heal and have fibers (white, blue, red, green, or
black in color) emerging from them. Sometimes these lesions lead to scars and
disfigurement. Often, short-term memory loss and concentration issues also
occur. The Mayo Clinic article also cites occasional gastrointestinal issues.
There seems to be a trend within families, as frequently more than one family
member, adults and children alike, seem to suffer from the condition. This
brings up the question of it being contagious. Cases have been reported in every
state, with the highest concentrations seeming to be in California, Texas,
Florida. Many occurrences also exist in Europe, according to the Morgellons
Research Foundation.
been successfully treated with some antibiotics and anti-fungal and
anti-parasitic medications to clear up some of the symptoms. Others are treated
for conditions such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, or neurological
diseases. Still others are told they suffer from a form of paranoia (delusional
parasitosis) in which they feel crawling sensations over their skin. Some of
them are prescribed anti-psychotic drugs. In an article written by Elizabeth
DeVita-Raeburn in Psychology Today, one mother was even accused of Munchhausen's
by proxy, meaning she was making up her son's condition in order to get
attention. ABC News tells of skeptics who have also accused patients of bringing
in clothing lint and claiming it came from their skin.
that they are delusional or have different diseases. They have partnered up with
the MRF and have bombarded the CDC with requests for research to be done. The
CDC has finally answered their requests by setting up this study. In the
meantime, the Mayo Clinic suggests following suggested treatments prescribed by
your medical team.
consensus about its true existence. The CDC study should be able to put to rest
many of the questions.
phone number to call at 404-718-1199, and an e-mail address at
morgellonssyndrome@....

ABC News: Bugs in Your Skin? Medical Mystery Probed

2008-05-19 21:40:55

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=4142695&page=1
launching a study to learn about an unexplained condition that causes people to
feel as if they have foreign substances growing from their bodies.
the lives of those who suffer from it," said Dr. Michele Pearson, principal
investigator leading the study for the CDC, in a press release. "Those who
suffer have questions, and we want to help them."
California Division of Research. For more information, CLICK HERE to visit the
CDC's Unexplained Dermopathy Web site.
when they consulted doctors, they received diagnoses they called wrong or
dismissive. Brandi Koch, the wife of former Major League Baseball player Billy
Koch, said that she felt as if she were living in a horror movie, claiming she
had colored fibers coming out of her skin.
the shower when she noticed something strange -- tiny fibers running through her
skin.
"If I had a family member call me up and say, 'I have this stuff,' I'd say, 'I'm
sending a straitjacket over. You need some help,'" she said.
she seemed to be living the American dream -- her three daughters excelled in
sports and were straight-A students.
husband, Tom, died in January 2006, and she believes his death was due to a
contagious illness that has infected her entire family.
layers." Dill said the skin on their hands was particularly bad, very swollen
and itchy, and said it felt as if bugs were crawling underneath the skin.
years. He claimed that a fiber was coming out of his big toe, and he had video
footage to prove it.
sensations, and the fibers which come out of the skin are really bizarre, and
really odd."
room complaining of a fiber in his eye. He admits that he, too, would be
skeptical if a patient came to him with the same story.
It's totally bizarre. It's something that -- just telling the story is so
outlandish on the face of it -- that no one would believe it," Smith said.
Dill's doctor told her to stop scratching, even though many of her sores were in
places she could not reach.
and he snickered," she said. "I can't go through another doctor blowing me off
or looking at me like I'm crazy. I know I'm not."
Medical Center, weighed in on what he'd say to someone who came to him with this
condition. "I don't think this is any different than many patients I've seen who
have excoriations and believe that there is something in their skin causing
this," he told ABC News in 2006.
when her son complained about the strange sore, the biologist, who once ran the
electron microscope at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, did what any
scientist would do. She took a closer look. "What I saw were bundles of fibers,
balls of fibers," Leitao says. "There was red and blue." Even stranger, they
glowed under ultraviolet light.
leading hospitals. He dismissed her tale of fibers and wrote to her
pediatrician, saying that her son needed Vaseline for his lips and that his
mother needed a thorough psychiatric evaluation.
What she discovered was a 17th-century reference to a strange disease with
"harsh hairs" called "Morgellons."
Web site, Morgellons.org. At the time of her interview in 2006, more than 4,500
people had contacted Leitao, claiming they had Morgellons-type symptoms. The
name stuck, and the disease was featured on the television show "ER."
or do they come from the external environment -- a kind of lint -- as the
medical skeptics say?
a Morgellons sample against known fibers in the FBI's national database. "No, no
match at all. So this is some strange stuff," Pogue said in 2006. He thought the
skeptics were wrong. "This isn't lint. This is not a commercial fiber. It's
not."
that the body may be producing." He added that, "These fibers cannot be manmade
and do not come from a plant. This could be a byproduct of a biological
organism."
"My kids have to see not only their dad but their mom disintegrating, and that's
gotta be really scary."
community to take them seriously, some Morgellon's sufferers wear pink bracelets
that say, simply, "Fortitude."

cbs11tv.com - Center For Disease Control To Look At Morgellons Disease

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best addressed by a careful, objective scientific analysis," said Dr. Michele
Pearson, CDC.
in northern California, one of the places shown to have a high number of
Morgellons cases.

San Jose Mercury News - Bay Area called hot spot for 'mystery' disease with sci-fi-like symptoms

2008-05-19 04:01:57

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are teaming up to investigate the straight-out-of-science-fiction syndrome whose
symptoms include itching, biting and crawling sensations and filaments or fibers
reported to emerge from the skin.
for Morgellons-like symptoms at Kaiser Permanente's Northern California
facilities between July 2006 and Dec. 31, 2007.
500 people may qualify for the study, said Dr. Joe Selby, director of Kaiser
Permanente-Northern California's Division of Research.
symptoms and other factors that may be related to the syndrome. Patients also
may be asked to volunteer for comprehensive medical examinations, including skin
biopsies. The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology also will assist with the
study.
conference Wednesday. "Those who suffer from this condition, as well as their
families and physicians, have questions, and we want to help them find
meaningful answers."

CDC to make call on mystery skin disease; Houston a hot spot? | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

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disorder that causes a crawling sensation and lesions that won't heal, the first
attempt to determine whether Morgellons is a legitimate illness or caused by the
patient's imagination.
Control and Prevention, would not go so far as to acknowledge that the illness
is real, but said the agency has received enough inquiries about it during the
past year that it deserves to be considered, and hopefully explained.
area a Morgellons hot spot, according to the Morgellons Research Foundation, a
nonprofit group that has become the primary source of information about the
disorder.
including crawling, biting and stinging sensations and so-called fibers or black
specks that protrude from skin lesions. Some also suffer from fatigue, mental
confusion and joint pain.
actually exists. Many doctors believe patients that show those symptoms suffer
from delusional parasitosis, a psychotic illness that causes the patient to
believe they are infected with parasites.
believe they have the illness. About 800 of those are from Texas, with most
clustered around Houston, San Antonio and Dallas.
illness needs to be identified," said Mary Leitao, a biologist who gave the
disorder its name and founded the foundation in 2002 after her 2-year-old son
began showing symptoms. "It's frustrating to have a sick child and not be able
to get help, to have to find your own answers, fight through a system, and then
to be treated in such a cruel way by certain groups that just cannot accept that
this is real."
in northern California, is intended to gather information about the illness,
including common symptoms, possible causes and risk factors shared by people who
say they suffer from it. Researchers will look only at patients in northern
California, the state with the highest number of self-reported cases.
contagious, but patients frequently report their family members also show
symptoms.
to show symptoms about a year ago, and since then has had to quit her job and
move away from her family because of the painful bites on her skin and other
symptoms.
have," said Stelk, a 53-year-old who worked as a drug counselor. "You just hate
the thought of them things munching on you."
skin lesions, the stinging sensation subsides, she said. But doctor after doctor
will not believe her story. They tell her she's crazy, she said, fighting back
tears.
medical community does not know or will not acknowledge that it's a
possibility."