Re: Link for sodium chlorite

2008-03-31 16:07:19

Thanks for your effort in trying to find where you purchased the
stuff. If you manage to find it, please post it.
I know I can mix the stuff myself, but there are all sorts of caveats
not to breathe the fumes and to store it in glass or only certain
sorts of plastics, so I think I would rather deal with it diluted. I
think it may be a substance that they add to cosmetics, when you make
them yourselves, so maybe I'll look there.
On top of that, wikipedia(I think that's where I saw it) says people
making homemade bombs mix it with sugar. The 'originator' of the
idea is supposed to be warning people not to allow the mixture to
touch the rubber bulb of a pipette/dropper. If it's all that
corrosive, I don't think I want to mix my own, not knowing a lot
about chemistry nor having the appropriate tools to handle it.
May I ask where you got your info from? I ask because you are mixing
the water/juice right along with the sodium chlorite and acid, and
though it sounds logical, the websites I looked at say to mix the 30%
solution with the acid, wait 3 minutes, then mix with the
water/juice.
'They' are saying if you don't get any sort of herx, you may not need
it, as it is not finding anything to kill - and some people react to
the stuff and some not.
Also, store in a dark bottle away from light - I thought some people
may have gotten old stuff. They say it lasts about 2 years.
Please keep telling us when interesting things happen.
Thank you, again.
No, that Ian guy was not a salesman. A number of people on the forum
that they post on are uncomfortable with the 'word' getting out,
fearful that it will be taken off the market.

Re:Link for sodium chlorite

2008-03-31 15:48:59

I an writing regarding 2 things. Clindamyacine is one
of the WORST offenders for c diff. And, when you
doctor said bloody diarrhea she was not kidding. It
will cause pseudomembrane colitis. C diff is
HORRIBLE. I got it after 4 days of IV antibiotics in
the hospital. YOU DO NOT WANT THIS~!!!!!!
Next, in regards to the MMS. I inquired about it and
Ian, who posted here, called me and they sent me a
FREE- yes, free, bottle to try it for myself. Maybe
it is snake oil. I just got it yesterday and need to
get it mixed, but most snake oil products will noy
spend their money to send it to you to try. I think
there may be something to it. Yes, it is akin to
chlorine bleach and what kills germs- bleach. Is
there bleach in our water- yes. So, I am keeping an
open mind and going to proceed using a ctric acid mix.
Linda
Linda

Re: fyi -- morgellons on wikipedia -- morgellonswatch 1, Niels 0 -- to be continued...

2008-03-31 08:15:04

Do think you're doing a fantistic job. They definitelu don't want
you around or want your input.Only antidiotial comment I can think
of is that " You're doing the little peoples work and you never
gonea get any cridit for doing that." W.Rogers (I thank)...Zip

Link for sodium chlorite

2008-03-31 07:36:58

http://www.spectrumchemical.com/retail/product.asp?
catalog_name=Chemicals&product_id=5429565
I have looked and looked and cannot find the link we used to purchase
the 30% solution of sodium chlorite. I did find the above link for
purchasing 100g of the anhydrous flakes. It is not difficult to mix a
28% solution from this. I have the instructions and measuring
accurately seems to be the most difficult part, as long as you can
measure water, it should be no problem. It is 40$ for 100g, which
will make a lot more than the four ounces we purchased for 29$. I
will keep looking for that link, but it seems not to be there
anymore. The closest you can buy to this in a health food store is
called aerobic 7, and is a 2% sodium chlorite solution, which means
you'd need about a quarter of the 20$ bottle for one dose and is not
really economical, but you can use it if you want to try it before
buying a larger amount.
The people who wrote the MMS e-book also have a link to buy their
preparation of a 28% solution, but I'd have to dig it up again- I'll
do that as soon as I get some time to look it up again. I'd think
you'd do just as well to make it yourself. It still seems to have
done some good. I am still asymtpomatic- though I have a lot of
yeasts and a bad toenail fungus. I have one red scar that is trying
to peel up on one edge- the way many of the lesions start again after
they have left a scar in one spot- and I have a few bumps on my chest
that may be acne or may be sores coming up. They are deep, like the
abcesses start out, and feel like they are connected. I am going to
watch them for a couple days, and will repeat the chlorine dioxide if
necessary. I do not think there is risk of resistance to this
particular chemical like many antibiotics, because of it's bleach-
like action. I want to go slowly with this one because I know so
little about it compared to antibiotics that have been used for some
time. It does seem to help, but i may not have comepletely eradicatd
the infection.
Dana

fyi -- morgellons on wikipedia -- morgellonswatch 1, Niels 0 -- to be continued...

2008-03-31 01:42:51

anybody wanna say something over at wikipedia.org's morgellons-discussion page?

Re: summarizing the current notion that morgs is oncho/actonomycosis on my blog

2008-03-30 14:22:09

This has always been my suspicion, but you know that.

summarizing the current notion that morgs is oncho/actonomycosis on my blog

2008-03-30 10:43:15

http://nielsmayer.com/roller/NielsMayer/entry/morgellons_discovery_cure
"The executive summary is that this syndrome is not a new disease, it is a
combination of bacterial -- actinomycosis -- and parasitic -- onchocerciacis
diseases."
please leave a comment. :-)
-- Niels
http://nielsmayer.com

Re: if you belive all that feel free just left a mail with the same person ask her for it

2008-03-30 05:35:05

Thanks for your post and unfortunately, you're right. It's far too
easy to be confused by a few crumbs of hope. We all need to be
vigilante. Zip

if you belive all that feel free just left a mail with the same person ask her for it

2008-03-29 22:50:59

my god dont you understand they pull this one yrs ago right before election. they promise us the same thing how they were working on and almost near some form of answer, give me a break well sure be so low IQ not to see what is happening the worst place is the morgellon research I mailed I called them even Assoc Prof Randy they all lie its all about money all we can do is as i left my mail and ask the one who just left the infor all about this they are being pressure to say something my father use to go off on then oh then if you dare mention that you will make sure a legal team gets invovled for taking money and doing zero then its this if you sit and wait gee its what we did of course the same thing said to us 8yr ago come on if you want results you have to be heard here for whatever reason maybe the government tells them now to let us get on tv an tell all whatsup. my aunt has a bro who works with local aff FOX newsteam for yrs is how i know, oh in GA or OR sure a dr
even came on as long as he said its fiber like crap instead of a real live bug, that humps very slowly or stops it you make movement my movement in that hotel room was to use fly spray but the dr was right my god you kill one tons more were back so of course much worst and here I sit reading and in a way smiling thinking oh well when its this bad maybe then you wont believe all you read are all lies my father doesnt have them except he went on and having a bad mouth, he said what in the hell are you god damn people doing my wife if bad i have mailed and mailed you with the same dam shit back to me.Were working so close to an answer people come on they are doing zero its election and they want their money fine like ones with aids or cancer all have cures cept why give them our the old timer said because far to many would be without a job get it they what the gov has to give up more money from they pockets and paid unemloyment.All the real news is underground you only see
sugar coated news maybe Rivera is about the only one i feel who maybe would except for ones with just fibers dont try a thing they love that one its ones like me with pics of live ones that they Primetime wont help me show all. we are stil being made to look like some nuts gee do you have then where you can roll them from you eyes on to a black binder then you have to know what your looking for it works here except because she didnt have it she was shocked yet just like some stepford wife went oh how terrible now she has them tells me I wish yrs ago I had cared to listen oh sure now she wants to go do something the only way anyone is going to be heard if by heading to DC or whatever and take a newsteam that way the real ones not fake who are told dont dare let this out duh well if she won' t show you my mail on all the things you are or wil happen to you if you dare read it in fact thats right good old assot Prof randy please he is one liar and know one even cares to give
you more then a fake report want to read the exact same on they gave to Sen Diane and my father sos sure sit here since you just now got it aids are too cept they and we can get weed to smoke to shut us up. You all remind me of when I first got it I believe for me a min for the father here well he just gave up and he knows yet just let it go he has no clue vacume alot and I mean alot why they hatch in his vacume so big deal guess he must now be on meth to do as much vacumini from a man who says were nuts oh well if you want to wait sure be my guest cept you will stil be sittin here in another 10yrs yet then who knows maybe you will die before because it does mask other symptons im done feel sorry that you are like the ones who go to some fair and their selling real gold at a real good price well you buy it sure ya yet i did till who knows now since my body ph is 7 which is why they hate the higher they levels of acids you have the more you have them lime is high alkaline
top of scale before in the beginning i use to drink it in my bottle water and all seemed not so bad except didnt know worse was first to come back in 2000, when the female had scabs all over her face funny she is our there somewhere like us all just sitting or who knows maybe dead sorry its the up all nite passd out from a sit up on couch 1/2 hr whatever oh gee well at the fair all would take me for yrs had high acid in my body and at any place where gold is found, Im able to rub it against my arms or hands and tell you by the black showing up how much gold is in a ring or blaclett, it got yelled at alot when telling frinend with proof see they is a small amount and your saying it 24k my god you rip off well he yelled at me told i could not do that i said well just did cya and it went on for yrs till who knows havent anwhere excpet when I drank my line water faithfully no more black marks back then and never noticed much until i stop the lime water went to my one dr who
gave me coal lazer treaments and were not allow to say there being use to rid the scabs which they did only left scars except not rich i only paid for 2x a week cux this mach is very strong in doing what ever it did and I just did the movement my self that way it only cost me 32.00 a viisit he is a sweet man cept I saw all of the burnt ones on the floor and thouggh ok how do you fix the insides the min you dont use this anymore well he is still in bus and guess its for life sorry spent to much money and belive me CA can afford this or drs can machine coal lazer well gee sure believe all the same thing they told us same time then now isnt that strange here come morgie research all of the sudden its election time finally one more report fron last election yr they want theit money I use to be in charge of a sales dept at pitney bowes on time my god or frieden alacal you know our mail postal machine all i can say I could sell you anything if you belive that well im done and sick
thaks to no foood and taking time to mail you all not knowing how to get the mail that was just sent to her who sent this let me know in mail i have more info cept im wiped and here comes some lame oh at least it shows a what sos well since you all know what to look forward to in say 4more yrs they will stop it all lke last election and its the time they want your vote of course they will do anything for you see its the perfect time to be heard or make sure your congress isnt all dirty like most are mail Senator Diane Feins tenin or who knows the poor women use to mail me cept now i just stoppd and now with the cancer so i really could care less so mail if you want to do something or if not the please dont believe that trash they sent same letter to us. im not on here to wipd only now with 9000 pices of mail i read all the new one to tired to do anymore so mail if not then sit keep on siting cus thats what you will be doing till you get it this bad. like i had said sorry for
how this looks my hands cant type anymore for now to weak bye god bless you all

kathy and my mom

Re: Post from the bay area board

2008-03-29 10:39:57

You can e-mail or contact Dr. Harvey through the MRF. I do not know
the exact location of thier present study but I would surmise that it
is being done within different locations and collaberated on? Just an
educated guess. The MRF has been silent for quite some time as any
scientific research institution would be. We must all realize that to
publish the final results of any study have they have to be
substantiated, and as per this letter states, they are still
investigating what they have discovered and have not determined the
parasite.
It is very interesting and uplifting news at best. I do not believe
that writing too many personal e-mails at this time will help the
research proceed. I believe that thier efforts at this time are much
more important than privately dicussing the details of thier study
with us. We need to be patient with the knowledge that they are still
in the process of finding what are disease is comprised of, what the
final treatment protocal will consist of, and will present thier
final findings soon. Scientific reaserch can not be rushed and in my
opinion if they are this close that we as sufferers haven't really
waited that long for this help. Granted we had to fight for someone
to listen to us for a long time and to fight the stigma of being
Delusional Of Parasitosis (our greatest obstacle)but it seems like
our time is getting near.

Re: [Morgellons] Post from the bay area board

2008-03-29 04:00:24

Where is this research and treatment being done? How
can I get in touch with William Harvey, MD, MS, MPH
LeeAnn

Post from the bay area board

2008-03-29 00:27:59

Subject: Re: Treatment for Morgellons Disease
Julie, we are moving closer to understanding the mechanism of this
illness and
have almost completed the defining paper for submission to a medical
journal for
review. Early in 2007, we did a detailed study of 25 consecutive
presumed
Morgellons patients here, collecting over 407 parameters on each, from
laboratory values, to physical exam findings, to detailed medical
history. All
parameters were mathematically collated to give us a first "look" at a
Morgellons "average". As the illness began with Ms Leitao's search
for a name
for her son's illness based solely on filaments she saw, all
registrants have
been purely self-diagnosed...again mainly based on the appearance of
skin
filaments, then later movement sensation.
The summary data was extremely revealing, and briefly, sowed us
consistent
abnormalities in immune function, chronic systemic inflammation,
multi-system
involvement...and perhaps what is turning out to be most important,
the presence
in all of actual parasites. By August 2007, we had micrographs of at
least two
genera and several species. The latter are so similar that we needed
help in
answering the question: exactly what species are they, as this
impacts treatment
significantly. As I speak, we have assembled a group of scientists at
a state
university laboratory with equipment capable of giving us the answer.
In the
group are three veterinarians, a parasitologist, a mycologist, an FBI
trained
forensics Nurse Practitioner, a PhD invertebrate zoologist, a
psychiatrist
experienced in infectious causes of behavioral change...and me.
Hopefully, they
will close the loop for us in the next few months.
Meanwhile, we knew enough months ago to resolve the illness in most,
with two
caveats. (1) Close to 90% get 90% well if we use intravenous
antibiotics
strictly tailored for one bacterium for several months. Hundreds have
done this
safely. The same antibiotics given orally take about 8 months. (2)
With the
finding of the most common parasite species, the use of one of two
anti-helmenthic antibiotics will resolve many symptoms, especially
the skin
manifestation in days...but only in about half. Knowing the species
in each
individual may resolve this.
All that said, treatment has to be guided carefully with regular
testing of
liver, kidney and marrow effects. A clinician must have extensive
experience to
avoid the errors we made. As we are licensed physicians, it is not
permissible
for us to write treatment protocols on line. This isn't done for
control, but
for patient safety and steering to a good outcome.
FYI, this phenomenon in NOT chronic Lyme disease, it's not Chronic
Fatigue
Syndrome, and we are now certain it is NOT Delusions of Parasitosis.
The latter
in fact, will be the thrust of the paper: the DOP label has resulted
in
inappropriate and incomplete treatment of countless people who never
recovered.
Once the final DNA sequencing is done and the paper completed, it
will be
published with treatment protocol(s) for all clinicians world wide to
use.
Meanwhile, as both primary organisms create brain limbic system
abnormalities,
we now understand that the delusional component of the illness is
real in many
affected (but far from all), so correct psychotropic medication can
help that
component even if treated purely independently. Nearly half the
Morgellons are
bipolar, but became so AFTER the parasite infection began. Others
have formal
diagnoses of extreme OCD or ADD/ADHD. The prevalence in children is
no different
from adults, and there appear to be no
gender or race differences.
We know that effective treatment can be obtained in Colorado from
physicians who
worked with us in Colorado Springs. Otherwise the globe is literally
full of
practitioners offering cures without factual basis. Our task is now
focused: to
complete and write the defining paper and provide the answer to
everybody.
Our best to all of you, Julie. For any additional correspondence,
please use my
MRF email address. Thanks.
William Harvey, MD, MS, MPH
Board Chairman, MRF

Re: A match

2008-03-28 21:31:12

I have observed these same "entities". Most lack the dark spot. Has
anyone read the MRF latest letter stating that there is one or more
parasites that have been discovered? The DNA sequencing is now being
performed and should soon yield the answer?
Wendy

[morgellons_bayarea] Fw: Treatment for Morgellons Disease

2008-03-28 10:44:54

I was wondering if anyone had a phone number or email
address of the doctors or the clinic that are treating
morgellons in colorado springs Coloardo that wrote
about the IV antibotic treatment.

regarding kaiser pls give me a break sorry havn a morgie mood swing

2008-03-28 09:27:37

Im sorry i just now wrote someone who hasnt a clue in 360 she is sweet and and angel.xcpet if you dont have this sorry your screwed.Guess its why her letter went off 2 cyber here Im in my mood swing day not sure what 2 do.I trained 3 diff kaiser hospitals in Ca.all I can say is one dr in their brand new ultra modern facility is all they care bout I saw what goes on behind the scene & what they did 2my mother is unheard of no tests were done givn her meds she was allergic to here Im at the detox ward just after I get her off frm all oh but no one bother 2 chc 4 any allergic reactions.Well of course this male here now you knw frm prior lettn tell you he is not my real father well nevr was yet its her $$ he sat their when we went to visit and he she had sat all day clingn 2 some sheet her poor rm mate let me knw I rush 2 the nurses ask them what the hell is wrong with you what did you give her when I found out my god,yes Im the one who made such a scene then here come male
cleaning his act up lik som lovin hubby yet it was me who said give her now an atidote or she will drop dead if so will b in court thank god one nurse there finally called this nut dr he had don it cuz thats all they give out to everything is mental meds screw his orders she thank god ignored him gave her a injection and she calmed down my god one month of nitemere and you arent allow to talk to her dr nice for hub to help me out when i sick jumping over counters and oh gee finally cuz we dare say here morgie the man hit the walls with fist or us.not me i made sure to have my ace in my pocket, well finally got her home which she never should of gon in 1st place wel one only one dr in one of the finest of all kaiser where all the very rich head to my god tho sure a theripist heard bout this morgie others in that brand new place new zero oh sure all said it ws n her head at that time thank god one theripsist tho now he wont let her go to her only cuz she doent knw what 2 do.
yet told my mom honey its nt in your head right on and i cant tell you how many screws up they do behind all back i have had many die there for they neg even danced the hula for a sweet fam frd my pop in a drug inducd coma,oh my it took me with being sick with all this and morgie 6hrs in ICU over and over to brin him out of this I knw to shut him up that wya nurses could read mags,finally on my 6hrs of over and over sure at times to not make then noticed it workd and then whe he stare to come thru im told to leave he is a not fat but large man he grab my arm so hard when they said that tld them im his daughter and im stayin sorry your leavin or cops wil come well he pull hisself up and threw up this purple crap still alseep or what ever said gee my now what? I had to go kiss him thought next time Im in every drs visit frm now on frm so many drs i have seen still tryn 2 day askin my what do i do anyway the next am he went home now what if I didnt bring him out of it they
would of said oh he had a heart attack sure with all u shove down him.When he found out yes he was pissed to say the least cept once you get in that comfort zone of kaiser you just stay I did one day to see I walked out cancel my time of my membership thought no way after all that.when u go you get who they give u or sure wait yet from my experience 3 out of 3 all in major cities, im sorry here where its the worse, no one knws anyting cept one sweet women who isnt allowed to giv out meds only chat, my god sorry do you think if they found a so called cure they would want to lose all this bus there getting now cuz here everyone is getting it and kaiser is the top of list out here,,my mom now is so screwed up and i have sat here crying look at my body skin and bones my hair is n a bun and no shoes have to get out per the jerk x father times like this would I love to call the real one excpt why hurt a family he has no idea i knw and he know and is a very rich man with a dauther
my age last saw this sweet man my uncle i was to call him till i last saw him he was just that til now like today, my mother so afraid of being alone disease as lots are when here i sit no help from the cancer crap non profit sure referral xcept im callng they must be nuts, so here i try they hang jst to get homemaker services to pay my now so late bills im not able to walk more then a few ft thanks to the bugs getting my respitory then my mom(ouch one bit my but) sori oh sure its 90%humidity gee forgot to check today tho its only 70degrees out side Im fed up im surpose to go to pay one bill i use to live on with m ssi chcek sory not up to typing right have to stay calm against a wall cant lay down or you get bit and there out today,now maybe someone there you decice cuz im from far to much why because when you were a nurse no one thinks we ever get sick k my fault i stayed single to show i could do it for now 10yrs big mistake bout ready if I wasnt so weak to just find any
guy to help me on the match site which its all messed up new car in driveway this jerk cant be bothered to go help me sure pay a taxi 8blocks rt for 60.00 sorry no yet it has to be and here is what do i do would someone there decide for me, Im making wrong decison while now my mother treats me like trash when i had a good life before this lived up north and would not have them this bad gave it all up to help my mom, now here she sits play its well making him stuck ;) was told she plays other all i knw all my life was a pill who raised me this person is on the one pill she od on oh its a blast and now after all my life always will in between beatings because he would cheat so we got it yet i never cried why and let her feel relax from over use of her meds benzo.This whole month a waste had to rent a computer for 500.00 now how sic if one person would of taken my as i have been there for all my whole life its my fault only its learned behavior im or was the man of the house in
ways now im told to get out oh sure try it the male here you already have attempted murder charges on u which are in pending that way he wont touch me yet daily now she is turning into him both ask me over and over when, when so i just sit day and nite tried so many nums from the sure so good cancer so here so im always callin TX centers for referrals yet they tell me they cant call for me soon the system is heading back in a few days or so and all becaue i could of bought a new one oh sure if pay one bill which is hard you stand and walk into a store to money gram quick collect then in 3days on monday my money is back to me sorry to get shoe go get my mail and gee get meds along with cashing check guess you might say sure prob would drop dead way to much well i can walk barefoot and jst go to 3 places then beg taxi man to wait so more money. or do I call another day of nums to get someone here asap oh sure they will help me with housing sorry right now i just dont believe
them this heavy load of guilt is driving me nuts cuz my bills are always on time here in ca everyone i have talked to so hateful my god would of been fired if i ever did what all are doing you bet i will a soon as im stronger to head to low humidity state. anyone there pls even will leave my nums or you can leave yours i dont know which one to do both are urgent to think i use to run sales depts run cust service dept mrg of all and nurse and lol non lic theripist well guess what even after so long they too need some help are any of you alone stuck a couch no sleep this week all week oh ya got maybe 1/2 hr per pass out and its not as if im not trynin what hurts in my mom sits on her butt and he makes her 3 meals all what she wants and i know what he did behind her back when she was in hospital my my is she one naive NOT faker YES and now tells me oh i forgave him all my life never knew my mom was a user its hard to meet this new person. here i sit would you try to crawl to
pay a bill and cash one check or would you call up and try again wasting more time to get women here to help me?if i would just get one bill paid i would call a reg place and sure you pay yet here is cancer so asking me well do you need money humm back then said no its just me now why not let them pay for whoever Im scared to death to call one more time to visa comp xcept i have to let them knw have the $$ only to sic think they care. my god so would any one please tell me what to do and for your kaiser remember your wrong to lose all this money as all the non profit or bills for research go the stalll on purpose come on you guy see out or work if a cancer cure so sure keep it going on also aids same thing there is a cure for it alll and it also by not fixing up keeps a control population on for us here over crowding IMO and from 1st hand info and seeing far to much. ok will wait pls maybe some even tallk to me on the phone someday this may be you after now I guess 8yrs my
god someone pls help me ok will be right here waiting at least you get to see how your going to be if no cure or something isnt done your so weak and well im here sorry the way if looks but bout now i very weak it also effects your muscles or joint now some scabs on my head on my god over lump over mini stoke and sory tho sure woud love to go to heaven yet cant do what many have done from this nitemere hell gee all i want is compassion now days its all gone not saying you there ok and pls no more trying to sell me any more crap im trying one more thing if if works will let you or sure feel free u can try it also rt now i have enough dr feel goods zero works so far only cremes and thats it oh sure raid and now back to bandaids for my bare feet they eat your skin if u have to stay 24/7 in a sitting postion. Im so wiped let um eat me all up so pls mail who ever has an idea of what i should do 1st

sorry love you all its a mood swing and they are bitting today badly .

love you

kathy sory cant proof it hope you can understand im wiped from typing any more yet have to . love and a hug to all now im going to pray and gee who knows maybe a miracle will let me know what one to do this is the most terrible feeling I have ever had to show you this who isnt the me I was oh sure got my brain working grt only brain fog at times sure another time in a bit we can discuss some of the sneaky things kaiser does there the worse and have many family memebers died there IMO love you all

Re: since I have no idea on here how to post sorry

2008-03-27 21:12:09

Hi Kathy thank you for posting alot of what your going through, I think we are all going through. We have all experienced some if not all the symptoms you describe.

I have a few questions I'd like to, for my own research, I've been trying to figure it out in my head without talking to anyone because as we all know, no one seems to care. Or they truely think we are nuts. Anyway this to all , If you don't mind it will help me try and make some sense for my own sanity, thank you for your understanding. Oh and Kathy HUGS for you to................Big Big HUGS.................and more HUGS. And we will all pray for each other.

Have you ever had your hands in saltwater aquariums?

Do you have citrus trees?

Do you eat red meat? Pork? If yes, do you see anything different from when you useto cook it before you had morgellons? How about patatos? or anything else you eat for that matter...............................it seems like this is everywhere. Anyway, Im sitting here laughing because I can imagine what I look like when I'm inspecting everythin that I come in cointact with, it's scary not knowihng where it came from and looking and looking and come to find that it's everywhere and no one else knows it's there or here, or there. just trying to make a funny out of this nightmare.Keep your heads up, ha ha maybe I should take my own advice.big hugs for all,Margie

big hug

A match

2008-03-27 20:20:09

Check the Photo section ( A Match ). An old drawing I had done and
put on my site www.williamthegreat.com 4b was matched today by a short
video that I found on www.curezone.com. I took the video and cut out a
frame. This video was done by Safrey who is also convinced that the
Bryozoan is the cause of these conditions that are known as
Morgellons. WTG

Re: Background for New People and the Politically Bored

2008-03-27 17:36:02

Long and tiresome article to read but I find the last paragraphs
somewhat revealing. They're bashing of the CCD for awarding the Morg
study to Kaiser instead of a university is eminently self-serving.
I've "rethunk" the Kaiser ethics question. When you really look at
it you might come up with Kaiser as the best choice. Kaiser has
hospitals and is currently treating Morg patients. I think everyone
will agree, Kaiser is in it for the $$$ and if they can make it by
coming up with a cure for Morg they will make every attempt to do so
as quickly as possible. I don't think that Kaiser will get bogged
down with whom gets credit for what as happened in early Aids
research Zip

Background for New People and the Politically Bored

2008-03-27 09:08:37

Someone was kind enough to mail this to me, so I am fowarding it.
Please, be very careful where you spend your money because wherever
there is a 'mystery' of any kind, there will quickly be those wishing
to capitalize from it off the backs of the weak and afflicted.
http://www.columbiacitypaper.com/2007/8/19/science-friction
The article ends on a not very encouraging note. Like Wendy, I am
convinced that this is nematode based. It makes sense, since this is
the one branch of parasitology ignored in med schools. It also makes
sense as the states nearest the agrarian population crossing our
borders are the most heavily infected.
I am certain that research is going on in the US right now, and
showing better results than the people in this article, asking for
donantions and skirting about the real cause because once the cause
if found, the solution will not be far behind which will mean their
monies will dry up.
Here is the article:
The rest of the neighborhood sleeps as the morning birds begin to
tentatively chirp from the shadows of the yard. But you don't hear
them. And though the tentative gray of dawn lights your bathroom
window in degrees you're too distracted to notice.
You've been frantically scrubbing at the newly formed lesion on your
forehead since the itching drove you from your bed in the middle of
the night. You've already got two other sores on your torso. Various
ointments and creamswhatever you had in the houseand even some
industrial solvents are scattered around the sink and in the floor,
though nothing has stopped the itching.
You've considered waking your husband but don't want to worry him
yet, becauseand maybe you're crazyit feels like the itching is
coming from inside, like something is crawling under your skin and
trying to burrow out. As you lean closer to the mirror you notice
that strange blue fibers have sprouted from the sores and somehow you
suppress the immediate urge to scream so you don't wake the kids.
Six months later, the sores have spread to your legs. The fibers are
sprouting in various colors now and you notice that they fluoresce
under a black light. You're starting to suffer cognitive and
neurological breakdown and are no longer able to work. The sores have
sprouted on your youngest child, too. And, worst of all, your doctor
explains away the fibers as lint and says the itching is due to a
form of psychosis.
It has been a year since the media storm surrounding Morgellons
disease peaked and died. The news angles were essentially the same:
an alarmist anecdotal lede like the one above, usually featuring a
Morgellons sufferer in the reporter's respective area; the storyor
at least mentionof Pennsylvania-cum-Surfside Beach, S.C. resident
Mary Leitao, a mother of three who discovered and named the
affliction and who founded the Morgellons Research Foundation (MRF);
the emerging science, some legitimate, some quackery and the medical
community's dismissal of the symptoms as psychosomatic; something
about the CDC; the whole thing capped off with a tragic, cliffhanger-
like ending: "For now, the only thing they can do is spread awareness
and hope for a cure." Fade out.
By and large, the national press hasn't yet faded back in. Meanwhile,
it has been a watershed year in the Morgellons world. This month the
Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released a statement officially
recognizing Morgellons as "an unexplained and debilitating condition"
and announced plans to begin preliminary research.
In the background, a schism in the MRF led to the formation of a
rival foundation called the New Morgellons Order (NMO). Then there is
the Nevada group of Morgellons enthusiasts who believe the condition
could have nanotechnological roots, not to mention the ever-
strengthening presence of Morgellons Watch, a watchdog blog run by a
tenacious and tireless California man who is determined to debunk
them all.
But against the backdrop of these new developments, the same old
scabs remain. And until concrete indisputable evidence can be brought
forth from a CDC-sanctioned case study, the debate will rage on: are
these people afflicted with a new disease or with a case of Internet
spawned mass delusion?
Morgellons' Roots: Mary Leitao and the MRF
"The first six months was like living in a Stephen King horror film
and I was the star." -Arlene, California
In the summer of 2001, two-year-old Drew Leitao pointed to an itchy
spot on his chin and said, "bugs." Drew had already been tested for
eczema, scabies and other skin disorders but no diagnosis seemed to
fit his condition. One evening Drew's mom, a former biologist,
noticed strange fibers that seemed to be emerging from the sore on
his chin. For the ensuing months, Mary Leitao says she conducted her
own studies on the fibers, hoping to explain them away as synthetic
or fabric. But, after she repeatedly sterilized the sore on Drew's
chin and then bandaged it, the fibers would always return, seemingly
sprouting from the inside.
One doctor from John Hopkins University suggested that Mary might be
suffering from Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, a form of hypochondria
which causes sufferers, usually the mother, to project illness (or
sometimes purposely induce it) on their children. Undaunted, Leitao
continued her research and found no other disease like Drew's listed
in current medical literature. Scouring antiquated medical texts, she
came across the text of "A Letter to a Friend" by 17th Century
naturalist, Sir Thomas Browne. In the text Browne describes a medical
condition he observed in French children called "the morgellons" in
which those afflicted would break out with patches of coarse hairs on
their backs.
In 2002, Leitao, then living in Pennsylvania, started a Web site
called the Morgellons Research Foundation and received responses from
people across the country, all who claimed to be suffering from an
affliction similar to Drew's. The Web site morphed into a full-
fledged non-profit with a board of directors and medical board
dedicated to securing funds for continued research. Following the
death of her husband in 2004, Leitao moved her family to Surfside
Beach, S.C. for a fresh start.
There fundraising for Morgellon's began in earnest and preliminary
research on Morgellons began at Oklahoma State University, Cal State
and the State University of New York, according to her site.
The MRF, currently listing its address in Pittsburgh, Pa., has so far
documented 64 claims of Morgellons in South Carolina. Approximately
10,000 families have registered with the foundation, believing that
they or a family member showed symptoms of Morgellons as defined by
the MRF. Of the U.S. families in the MRF registry, 24 percent reside
in California with a large cluster of cases in the San Francisco area.
But one California man doesn't buy it. Michaelwho would only give
City Paper his first name out of fear of harassment and who prefers
to go by his screen name "Margellon"started Morgellons Watch in
April of 2006 because, he says, he had "some problems with their
science."
"Much of the MRF info is very one-sided and pushes a very particular
viewpoint," he says. Margellon worries that if someone is in fact
delusional, the MRF gives them a blanket validation.
"The MRF simply says `you are not delusional' without knowing
anything about the person," Margellon charges. "Simply that the
person thinks they have Morgellons is enough for the MRF."
Margellon also worries that the site scares people. "The media
coverage (all guided by the MRF) sensationalizes this as some
horrific new disease. People get scared that they might have it or
catch it. This is all based on no evidence at all and is very
irresponsible of both the MRF and the media," he says.
Still, he believes Mary Leitao means well. "But I think she is simply
misguided," he says, "and perhaps manipulated by those around her."
Morgellons under the microscope
The medical and scientific advisory boards of the MRF are comprised
of over a dozen medical doctors and researchers. Taking into account
recurring symptoms described by patients coupled with their own
research, the foundation has developed it own case definition of
Morgellons.
The opening paragraph of the case definition concedes that the
initial three characteristics of Morgellons mirror a psychiatric
illness known as Delusions of Parasitosis (DP), which Dr. Noah
Scheinfeld, assistant clinical professor in the Dept. of Dermatology
at Columbia University, describes as "the patient's firm belief that
he or she has [itching] due to an infestation with insects." He goes
on to say that patients will often bring in "clothing lint, pieces of
skin, or other debris contained in plastic wrap, on adhesive tape, or
in matchboxes. They typically state that these contain the parasites;
however, these collections have no insects or parasites."
But the MRF maintains that DP was "named decades before today's
laboratory technology and infection/immunity knowledge, driven by
HIV, developed." They believe that, in the case of Morgellons, DP
is "a prematurely-assigned label to an organic, rather than purely
psychiatric disease."
The physical symptoms of Morgellons, according to the foundations
definition, include: skin lesions, which progress to open wounds that
don't heal completely; movement and biting sensations both on and
under the skin; near microscopic granules and "filaments" of varying
color which fluoresce under UV light; and cognitive and neurological
dysfunction. The definition also cites muscle and joint pain and
fatigue similar to that described by people believed to suffer
chronic Lyme disease.
"The association with Lyme disease," the case definition states, "and
the apparent response to antibacterial therapy suggest that
Morgellons disease may be linked to an undefined infectious process."
The foundation has so far not developed a concrete theory as to how
the condition may be spread, though many believe that it is
communicable. They also don't believe that Morgellons is fatal.
Clongen Laboratories, LLC, owned by MRF board member Ahmed Kilani,
Ph.D, believes that Morgellons is caused by a complex fungi, algae
or "novel parasite." They are currently trying to isolate DNA from
the fibers and link it to a similar organic structure. Dr. Vitaly
Citovsky, Ph.D is also on the board of the MRF.
A researcher with the State University of New York, Citovsky believes
that Morgellons could be linked to an Agrobacterium that causes
tumors and forms root-like structures within plants. In recent years,
forms of Agrobacteria have been used to genetically modify plants by
transferring select genes to those plants.
"Morgellons skin fibers appear to contain cellulose," Citovsky stated
in a January 14 statement. "This observation indicates possible
involvement of pathogenic Agrobacterium, which is known to produce
cellulose fibers at infection sites within host tissues. If these
results are confirmed, it would be the first example of a plant-
infecting bacterium playing a role in human disease."
Dr. Randy Wymore, director of the Center for the Investigation of
Morgellons Disease at Oklahoma State University, insists that most of
the Morgellons fibers he has studied were first observed under and
within healthy, unbroken skin, which would rule out the possibility
of lint being stuck to a scab.
In a June 19 position statement, Wymore stated that some of the
fibers associated with Morgellons "are not simple textiles of animal,
plant or synthetic nature." In one now infamous experiment reported
by Psychology Today, Wymore and a fiber expert from a police
forensics crime lab exposed Morgellons fibers to extreme heat to
compare their burning point to other organic compounds. The fiber is
reported to have sustained temperatures up to 1,400 degrees without
burning.
"Efforts to find microorganisms associated with Morgellons are a
process of elimination," Wymore states. "We use molecular biology
techniques to try to identify the presence of DNA sequences of
candidate organism."
So far, no research has proven conclusively that the fibers are
generated within the body.
Crawling with nanorobots / The schism at MRF
Russell Altman of Beneficial Solutions, LLC distributes a colloidal
silver additive for water called NutraSilver. Colloidal silver is
believed to have antibiotic properties and was used as a disinfectant
before the invention of penicillin. Currently, the U.S. government
only considers it a dietary supplement (which can't by law claim to
cure diseases) and in 2001 the FDA issued a warning to an Internet
site that promoted colloidal silver as an antibiotic. Still, Altman
believes that his silver product will ease the suffering associated
with Morgellons.
He also told City Paper that he believes Morgellons is caused by tiny
replicating robots which are sprayed down upon the populous from
Earths atmosphere.
"There is some very strong information coming from Dr. Hildegard
Staninger who is a very famous Industrial Toxicologist that this
infection is man-made nanomachines and that they are able to
communicate," he said.
Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, with Integrative Health International, LLC
did indeed present a paper to the National Registry of Environmental
Professionals in 2006, claiming that a study of Morgellons fibers
showed that "the fibers' outer casing is made up of high density
polyethylene fiber (HDPE). The fiber material is used commonly in the
manufacture of fiber optics." He went on to say, "It was further
determined that this material is used throughout the bio
nanotechnology world as a compound to encapsulate a viral protein
envelope which is composed of a viron (1/150th times smaller than a
virus) with DNA, RNA, RNAi (mutated RNA) for specific functions."
"This is a man-made infection," Altman insists and then raises the
question: But who made it? "Well, consider that it took many billions
of dollars to create, you can guess who might be the inventor of this
horrible, life-stealing disease," he says.
When asked what he thinks about the high density of reported cases in
California, Texas and Florida, he begins his sales pitch. "Morgellons
disease is created by Chemtrails at high altitudes. My product is
sold globally to victims in almost every country because the world
population has been exposed through high-altitude spraying.
Morgellons is in the air and therefore in the water and food chain
globally. Yes, there are clusters, but my view is that this is all
over the world. You need to know that I have the only effective
treatment for Morgellons. We measure our success by how many suicides
we prevent every week."
He then directed me to his associate's Web site to read testimonials
by doctors and lay people. NutraSilver claims to cure everything from
acne to Lyme disease and, of course, Morgellons. One testimonial was
given by a doctor named James Matthews, M.D. who claimed to have
Morgellons only to be cured by NutraSilver. He also disclosed that
a "small percentage from the sales of NutraSilver is paid to Advanced
Medicine, L.L.C., a new nonprofit company that I direct."
"It's a typical nonsense theory," says Margellon of the nano
machines. "Russell Altman, on the other hand, is all business. He's
running a MLM [multi level marketing] scheme for a quack remedy. Jeff
Sohler is the man behind morgellonshope.com and nutrasilver.com. Both
Web sites are registered through his Internet marketing company
Sohlius, Inc."
And while 2006 saw the Internet blossom with pyramid schemes to fuel
the debunkers' cause, internal personal struggles began to wreak
havoc at the MRF.
Dr. Greg Smith, a Gainesville, Ga. pediatrician who served on the MRF
medical board, resigned last year citing philosophical differences
with Leitao. Former MRF chairman, Charles Holman and Dr. Smith also
asked to see the foundation's financial records for 2004 and claimed
that Leitao said she didn't have them. Shortly thereafter, Smith
removed a letter on a medical Web site soliciting donations to the
MRF and replaced it with a retraction, stating that he couldn't
solicit donations to the foundation without seeing the financial
records.
"It has been the most bizarre situation," Leitao told the Pittsburgh
Post-Gazette at the time. "We're talking little, tiny chunks of
money. I will tell you, the year 2004, there were $318 worth of
donations. And $100 of those came from me. I donated a check to my
own foundation to jump-start us."
City Paper obtained the foundation's IRS 990 form for 2005 which
listed total revenue at $17,165. After expenses the foundation's
total assets for 2005 came to $14,664. It was unclear how much was
donated to research.
Leitao did not respond to information requests by City Paper. Ken
Cowles, the foundation's director of media and public relations,
enthusiastically agreed to a conference call between himself, City
Paper, possibly Leitao, and a South Carolina Morgellons sufferer (for
alarmist opening paragraph purposes hence the subpar, 2nd person
substitute). Subsequent phone calls and emails from City Paper to set
up said interview have so far gone unanswered as of press time.
Margellon, however, was quick to comment and also criticized MRF
board members Ginger Savely, RN and Raphael B. Stricker, M.D. who
both have backgrounds in the chronic Lyme disease movement.
"The thing I dislike the most is that many members of the MRF have a
significant financial stake in popularizing the idea that Morgellons
is a distinct disease. Stricker and Savely run a clinic in San
Francisco where they treat Morgellons Patients with cocktails of anti-
everything drugs and very expensive courses of antibiotics," he
said. "I think they get a lot of business via the MRF."
Morgellons Watch reported that Savely charges $500 for an initial
visit to her clinic and treatment costs run from $1,200 to $12,000
per year, all out of patients' pockets, as medical insurance doesn't
cover such treatments.
To add insult to injury, Dr. Wymore at Oklahoma State University
stepped down as the foundation's director of research, though he
still maintains a working relationship with the group. Meanwhile,
former chairman Holman and other board members, Smith included,
formed the New Morgellons Order, a group so rabidly pro-financial-
disclosure that they post photocopies of the organization's written
checks on their Web site.
The CDC trudges into action
Until recently the CDC seemed reticent to devote any manpower to the
Morgellons issue. After a strongly worded letter by U.S. Sen. Dianne
Feinstein (D-Calif.) the CDC began to contact people directly to
inquire about the condition. In 2006 a CDC task force was formed and
in December of that year, U.S. Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and
Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) signed a single letter to the director of
the CDC asking them to expedite their investigation of the issue. The
CDCs Division of Parasitic Diseases removed the Delusional
Parasitosis page from their Web site in March and many in the
Morgellons community believe the removal of the entry has
significance to their cause.
David Daigle, a spokesman for the CDC, told City Paper the entry was
removed for other reasons.
"The page/link was removed due to a Web management issue rather than
Morgellons," Daigle says. "HHS [Health and Human Services] web
governance asked us to remove the page as it did not provide
information, rather it linked visitors to another Web site."
Last month, the CDC released a solicitation notice contracting Kaiser
Permanentea nonprofit managed health care organization based in
California that boasted an operating budget of $3.1 billion in 2005
with 37 medical centers across the country tending to its roughly 9
million health plan membersto investigate Morgellons. The CDC chose
Kaiser Permenente due to its location in an area with a large number
of suspected cases, its large database of patients and what they
describe as its qualified staff and facilities.
Some in the Morgellons community have expressed concern over the
government's decision to award a contract to a multi billion dollar
health care organization instead of some of the University
researchers who have been studying the condition for years. But for
now, it's all they've got.
For now the only thing left to do is spread awareness and hope for a
cure.

Re: [morgellons_bayarea] Fw: Treatment for Morgellons Disease

2008-03-27 01:51:23

BTW, I've been puzzling over the "IV antibiotics that cures in fewer months than
the oral equivalent" ... a medical riddle.
And I'm not actually thinking that perhaps they're talking about IV delivery of
drugs we normally take orally. In my experience with lyme, that might be IV
doxycycline, or IV azithromycin. Both of these are available in pills too.
For example, in a different, but IMHO totally related illness, they talk all
about doxy oral vs IV....
http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/franth110201.htm
Doxycycline is also recommended to be coadministered for microfiliaria
infections (alongside an antiparasitic).
This may be relevant as well:
Title Recent Updates on Onchocerciasis: Diagnosis and Treatment
Author(s) Don N. Udall
Identifiers Clinical Infectious Diseases, volume 44 (2007), pages 5360
DOI: 10.1086/509325
PubMed ID: 17143815
Copyright © 2007, the Infectious Diseases Society of America.
Recent progress in onchocerciasis research has led to improved understanding of
the immunopathology of Onchocerca volvulus, as well as improvements in diagnosis
and treatment of this morbid disease. This article reviews the recent
literature, highlighting breakthroughs in sensitive means of antigen testing and
an unusual new approach to therapy that targets an endosymbiotic bacterium
required for filarial worm fecundity.

morgelllons have lots of infor was a nurse not sur hw 2 do this

2008-03-26 19:17:10

Im sorry yet its my 1st time here not sure to know how to tell if
anyone gets this forgive me if Im wrong yet please read its important
info remember zero kills these parasties.Im now going to leave my
cut/paste mail that was here only not sure if it showed. hugs 2 you
all.Kathy:)
HI to whoever is in need of alot of very valuable infor im alone as
in parents wont help me after being a nurse, i detox my mom after a
60yr benzo med prob. My mom and I both have morgellons and live in
Calif. Im working with Senator Diane Fienstien, a wonderful women who
is trying to help us who suffer with this parasitse. I have much more
to say only just now found you and belive me with scabs, pics of live
ones humping up walls.With pics from my cell phone from an expensive
hotel. I didnt'want security to wonder why Im taking pics of there
elavator wall.Its so much more to tell have tried many prods and like
they now have to admit after CDC 5yrs ago lied to Senator Diane and
myself also forget Assoc Prof Stricker, NHC another one. I just now
on my regular 360 found you. Im more then happy to share all I have
research on my own plus another wonderful friend who has never heard
of it till this month. She too is a nurse.Im going to mail her back
because its in every state, the states of CA, TX and FL have then the
worse because of being the boarders to mexico pls no hate ok except
pls if you come here leave your parasite at home also China by way of
their clothes(which is where the fiber dis started this.) there in
all countries.I find them alot in open bulk clothes not as much in
USA made and have found by just trying and crying and trying till,
now with no support,my fault because if you need me Im there for you
instead of so weak in this richy rich area for 45yrs or more before
my time. Im hearing tons of cases finally guess my mom and I at 1st
they still here wont see it tho here they are called jumping popcorn
because its a coocoon over the flake of dandruf which is the babes
from the female male is a black spot tho 5 spicec of this. your
cats/dogs bring in by way of dirt,nothing kills them have found ways
on the spot and also dealing with ovarian cancer, 2nd hand smoke
cancer.Its a strange thing an flippsd till so many calls came into
CDC they now say its not in our \heads, finally:)Yet try this site he
just had a forum in las vegas with over 3000 drs, scientist after
having this for 8yrs, its been here since the yr 1600ad and well Im
very weak it masked the symptoms you think drs tell u when in fact
its them, my mom in her bowels I have seen them move in her bowel
movement. Its at times a u shape transparents, whats strange about
them is if they feel fear (I KNOW YOUR THINKIN WHAT?):) its ok when
you have to sit now for over 4yrs and have plenty of time to pick
apart a say lint ball and then you see them here you dont even need a
maginfy glass which shows me we must have them the worst of all.My
mom she is petrified to tell this creep here we both have them or
else he goes into a rage.Im fed up because Im one to head to DC and
with every cent I have march in front let um all know we want help
now and make sure newscast is there, even here in calif,The Amer Can
So has become so money hungry also with now from these bugs my three
teeth are really bad now for a yr, they love skin and my mom gets
them in her mouth more then I do yet at time after a few days of just
not wanting to eat I find some too. I wish I could come show all what
they look like or inpect homes to see with a high grade camera, thats
nothing with all the others things Im dealing with.
Try MorgellonsHope.com or leave out the s end of morgellon sorry wish
I could keep on no help and cant find one person to just pick up this
room and that way can get a place to live who knows finally get my
cancer taken care ofyou .Please stay away from Ca for now there here
bad in the high humidity, worse near water feel free to mail me and
now pls if any pray would someone pray for the two here to get off me
and stop all the yelling and pls I have to try to get off the couch I
live on cuz if you lay down here you will get bit more to share
except (oh ya sorry also you will have a prob with a brain freeze or
your commincation skills will at times not allow you to speak will
get your thoughts very messed up,My mind thank God is perfect got my
own MRI, ordered it from dr also a CT-with IVcontrast on complete
body Its a mess and to have not one dr treat me till I rid myself of
scabs all over my body and arms is unheard of oh well sure come here,
get a practice going its almost sick the medical board does zero to
some drs
I did Dr Nurtra and other ones heard from my good attorney in AK she
had them not scabs yet her bowels not sure if what she said help
clear them up yet for me as soon as I can get my one bill paid then
will try it also, yet if they lay eggs how come she doesnt have them
right back its why they say zero for now to give us i have some
things that bring comfort yet still to see they cant be killed per my
GOV now lf his job moved far from CA whats the sense now I see more
and more new states just now telling all aobut it make sure to get

Re: a new, interesting site and board

2008-03-26 14:26:41

Name's OK but just looks like a vehicle for fundraising. Also, no
doctors or other medical personal are listed as actually being
directly associated with the site. Think they are just after your
$$$. Zip

a new, interesting site and board

2008-03-26 12:07:51

http://unknownskindisease.com/
which seems to be associated with
this board http://unknowndisease.proboards2.com
I appreciate the "break" from the working name of morgellons, which is now
synonymous with delusional among mainstream doctors. Why can't they just call it
by the CDC's official name http://www.cdc.gov/unexplaineddermopathy ??
Comments on the above? The board itself seems to be admin'd by Randy Yaskal,
whereas the site is registered as follows:
I am somewhat distrustful of the "VA" address.. but hey, they're over two hours
away from Langley so at least it's not in spooksville. On the other hand,
they're only 1.7 miles from these clowns at the UVA
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2007/06/folie_a_news.php
-- Niels
http://nielsmayer.com

morgellons filaments in skin need doctor

2008-03-26 06:07:58

what is the "Marshall Protocol"?
patram81 <patram81@...

If nobody else knows about this, my scanty knowledge might contribute
something.
A long time ago I looked into this, but not really well. I got
discouraged.
People who brought up valid questions or mentioned that it did not
work for them or should be adjusted were sort of put down or their
posts were erased, to my memory.
The ones remaining seemed a bit cultish.
I never, personally, heard of it helping anyone outside of
the 'following'.
Oh yeah, I remember asking a question about Morg, or reading someone
else's and there were great praises about how it could cure Morg, yet
I also knew from the answer they did not know sh@t from shinola.
But, there may be something to it, and if you decide to try it,
please report back.

SOS

2008-03-26 02:57:50

Cheryl & Phyllis are gone.
Rita

Re: HELLO FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF FENBENDAZOLE USEAGE FOR MORGELLONS!

2008-03-25 13:39:39

Michelle,
I sure do remember you. You gave me the push I needed to start
fenben. I am sorry for the troubles that life has brought you, but
it is very good to hear from you again.
I hope you can get back on fenben quickly.
I try to get the 1000ml bottle, as it is less expensive, but the
really cheaper one is the size even larger than that. It lasts over
a year, but costs $365.
I am happy that you came back and hope for your improvement.

HELLO FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF FENBENDAZOLE USEAGE FOR MORGELLONS!

2008-03-25 08:22:35

Hello everyone I am back. And, as I had to stop taking fen for a
month or 2 due to the cost, I am now seeing a small area of
Morgellons recurring on my right elbow area coming back as well.
I had found another OTC medicene to use; I've been using it
topically though it is meant for internal use for humans.....with
pinworms. Main ingredient: Pyrantel Pamoate. I found it in Walgreens
drugstore; it is called "Reeses Pinworm medicene"; in a small
bottle,in a liquid yellowish color. I have also seen this drug in
Hartz dewormer for dogs, in a tablet form with yes, the same
ingredient, pyrantel pamoate. Go figure that one! Sometimes I get the
tablets for "large" dogs, 90 lbs. & over; and cut it in half and take
it that way every 2 or 3 days.
Taking a combination of these two seems to keep the sores confined
and not too numerous, and quells the itch as well. The liquid stuff
does not dry on the skin, it turns the top layer of skin into a layer
of gooey, very fiberous looking mess. I can easily scrape off dozens
of this wormy, fiberous looking mess with a fingernail or my tweezers.
When our finances improve though, I want to go back to fenbendazole,
as I've found, along with many others that this drug really has been
the biggest help I've had since 2003 when I first came down with
Morgellons.
The place on my right elbow is the only place where I'm seeing any
recurrence, although periodically I can sense the ears, eyes and nose
itching. But I'm not at the point of panic yet, since these other two
medicenes have helped me alot since not being able to take the fen
for like I said a month or 2.
I did try the oxibendazole for about a month with little success, and
afterwards I was having intestinal problems (diarrhea & stomach
aches); not sure what that was due to...but I stopped the oxi. I
think my liver and other organs are going thru hell with all these
medicenes, but it's my body and I'm taking the chance because if not,
I was considering doing away with myself, the itching and sores were
on all 4 extremeties at one time, and life was truly unbearable.
At this time I feel that the product Nutra Silver is a totally fake
product, having no value whatsoever, as was reported by many trying
it.
I surmise this product is only bottled water and is being sold by
persons who wish to profit on Morgellon sufferers. These sellers of
Nutra Silver believe that Morgellons isn't a real affliction, they
feel we are suffering with DOP, and trying to capitalize on this.
I've seen only ONE person, just ONE who claims to have had great
success with it, and ONE is not enough to convince me of it's value!
For one thing, how is it possible that ingesting a colloidal METAL
into the human body NUTRITIOUS?
Of course there are some metals the body needs such as iron and zinc.
But I am leery of the toxicity of putting further unrecommended
colloidal metals into my body until I hear it from a doctor. And I
have yet to hear this. If it is approved by the FDA I would
definitely try it. But NOT until then.
I can't wait to order more fen soon!!!
P.S. I was the originator of fenben use in the first place, remember
me????!
Michelle from Delaware County

Re: [Morgellons] HELLO FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF FENBENDAZOLE USEAGE FOR MORGELLONS!

2008-03-25 03:49:46

Michelle,

I remember you and am so grateful to you-fenben has been so helpful for me as well. I still have a "film" that peels off almost daily, on my lips, a huge sore by my right ear, also one near my right elbow, a couple on my forearms and wrist area, and a couple on my foot. This has not "cured" me, but it does seem like the amount of fibers that come off/out of me is reduced greatly, and the lesions don't generally get as big, or stay for as long a period of time.

Glad you are back-

Lori
fenbenalmostcuredme <fenbenalmostcuredme@...

Hello everyone I am back. And, as I had to stop taking fen for a
month or 2 due to the cost, I am now seeing a small area of
Morgellons recurring on my right elbow area coming back as well.
I had found another OTC medicene to use; I've been using it
topically though it is meant for internal use for humans.....with
pinworms. Main ingredient: Pyrantel Pamoate. I found it in Walgreens
drugstore; it is called "Reeses Pinworm medicene"; in a small
bottle,in a liquid yellowish color. I have also seen this drug in
Hartz dewormer for dogs, in a tablet form with yes, the same
ingredient, pyrantel pamoate. Go figure that one! Sometimes I get the
tablets for "large" dogs, 90 lbs. & over; and cut it in half and take
it that way every 2 or 3 days.
Taking a combination of these two seems to keep the sores confined
and not too numerous, and quells the itch as well. The liquid stuff
does not dry on the skin, it turns the top layer of skin into a layer
of gooey, very fiberous looking mess. I can easily scrape off dozens
of this wormy, fiberous looking mess with a fingernail or my tweezers.
When our finances improve though, I want to go back to fenbendazole,
as I've found, along with many others that this drug really has been
the biggest help I've had since 2003 when I first came down with
Morgellons.
The place on my right elbow is the only place where I'm seeing any
recurrence, although periodically I can sense the ears, eyes and nose
itching. But I'm not at the point of panic yet, since these other two
medicenes have helped me alot since not being able to take the fen
for like I said a month or 2.
I did try the oxibendazole for about a month with little success, and
afterwards I was having intestinal problems (diarrhea & stomach
aches); not sure what that was due to...but I stopped the oxi. I
think my liver and other organs are going thru hell with all these
medicenes, but it's my body and I'm taking the chance because if not,
I was considering doing away with myself, the itching and sores were
on all 4 extremeties at one time, and life was truly unbearable.
At this time I feel that the product Nutra Silver is a totally fake
product, having no value whatsoever, as was reported by many trying
it.
I surmise this product is only bottled water and is being sold by
persons who wish to profit on Morgellon sufferers. These sellers of
Nutra Silver believe that Morgellons isn't a real affliction, they
feel we are suffering with DOP, and trying to capitalize on this.
I've seen only ONE person, just ONE who claims to have had great
success with it, and ONE is not enough to convince me of it's value!
For one thing, how is it possible that ingesting a colloidal METAL
into the human body NUTRITIOUS?
Of course there are some metals the body needs such as iron and zinc.
But I am leery of the toxicity of putting further unrecommended
colloidal metals into my body until I hear it from a doctor. And I
have yet to hear this. If it is approved by the FDA I would
definitely try it. But NOT until then.
I can't wait to order more fen soon!!!
P.S. I was the originator of fenben use in the first place, remember
me????!
Michelle from Delaware County

Re: itchy face Homeopathy for various ailments.

2008-03-24 23:49:23

There are several things that you have brought up here. I will attempt to address all of them.

I have dealt with over 5,000 various individuals in my 22 years of homeopathy. I would say that a third of them or more have been parasite related.

Morgellon's is a misnamed dis-ease for it is based upon a "delusion".. You are not delusional. You do really have parasites.

Homeopathic remedies are made from herbs (nocuous as well as poisonous ones), metals (including heavy metals and radioactive materials), minerals, animals and their venoms or their excretions, (this includes the humans) disease or diseased tissue of humans or animals, various disease or fungi that grow anywhere.

A homeopathic case must be taken by the homeopathic practitioner in order to find the one remedy that fits the situation at the time.. (and situations change... The homeopath must follow this path and change the remedy as necessary. This may be changed in a few hours or a few days or a few months. This is the Healing ART of Homeopathy that aids the individual who suffers to become well again.)

Each person manifests the symptoms of any "DISEASE" in a different manner. Think about it

The same with foods.. Some of you love sweets, others sours or salty, savory foods., others bitter foods. Others of you are can't stand one or another of these foods or if you eat them they cause your symptoms to worsen. Some of you have headaches or back or joint pain with the parasite invasion. Others of you can't loose weight and others can't gain any weight. Some of you can't sleep. Other of you can't stay awake.

This is all part of your disease, yet you are all individuals you are not "MORGELLONS DISEASE".. You are not a "disease". You are individuals. You names are different and so are your DNA/RNA chains... You are all of different races, and of different national originals. These are all taken into consideration by the homeopath.

WE can make a remedy from a disease or a parasite. I have done this before... It was not the main remedy that was used... It was an intercurrent the dealt with the case at the middle or the end of the situation, but we have many remedies that deal with parasites and they work wonderfully. They worked in past and they work now.

You have to stop thinking of yourself as the "DISEASE" and think of yourself as "YOU"...

Salt / Vitamin C Protocol - does it help ?

2008-03-24 15:24:09

Hello,
I recently started the Salt / Vitamin C protocol for the second time
after reading a post from a woman in Alaska:
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/morgellons.html
Her post was very informative and seems pretty logical.
I've tried it once before but did not last to long because it can
really upset you stomach. This time I have adjusted and have been on
it for 3 weeks. I am taking 12gm Salt (CMC tabs) and 12gms of Vitamin
C (Acsorbic Acid) per day. I do my best to stay on an Anti-Candida
diet.
So for no results but I want to give is some more time. Has anyone on
this board tried this protocol with any success? The crawling
sensations on my skin is what I really would like to decrease. I have
been fighting this for 2 years now and have tried many things. So far
I haven't found a thing to combat the creepy crawlies. : (
Does anyone know if you are suppose to take the C as Ascorbic Acid or
Sodium Ascorbate? Does it make a difference?
Thank you in advance,
Greg

Re: [Morgellons] What I think works for Morgellons

2008-03-24 10:56:11

I AM ALWAYS HAPPY EVEN WITH THIS
ritainthelibrary <ritainthelibrary@...

Eat ONLY chicken, broccoli and spinach. Nothing else. Drink only water
tea and coffee ( no sugar, milk or artificial sweetener). I find
Tetley gives me caffeine and energy.
Do not allow yourself to become constipated.
Take 5000 mg Vitamin C daily.
Eat REFRIGERATED acidophilus/bifidus like candy. Take a handful of
them, 15 - 30 minutes before eating.
Excercise as much as you can. Start slowly.
Get out of bed.
When you're feeling better because you're following this dietary
advice, take a walk.
Do something that makes you happy.
Rita

re: morgellons filaments in skin need doctor

2008-03-24 08:34:49

(1) Find a "Lyme Literate Medical Doctor" in your area. Also known as LLMD -- a
lyme disease specialist. http://ILADS.org (lyme disease society) is the only
known group of medical professionals to recognize this disease, e.g.
http://www.ilads.org/publications_bransfield_06_2007.html . Lyme disease can do
lots of stuff... see http://lymediseasefilm.com trailer, and also check out
their excellent "resources" page.
(2) Login to Lymebusters and ask for advice:
http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=rash

What I think works for Morgellons

2008-03-23 23:30:45

Eat ONLY chicken, broccoli and spinach. Nothing else. Drink only water
tea and coffee ( no sugar, milk or artificial sweetener). I find
Tetley gives me caffeine and energy.
Do not allow yourself to become constipated.
Take 5000 mg Vitamin C daily.
Eat REFRIGERATED acidophilus/bifidus like candy. Take a handful of
them, 15 - 30 minutes before eating.
Excercise as much as you can. Start slowly.
Get out of bed.
When you're feeling better because you're following this dietary
advice, take a walk.
Do something that makes you happy.
Rita

Re: itchy face

2008-03-23 20:13:28

I hate to keep banging on the same, old drum, but your question has
been haunting me, and though I am sure it is incredibly boring, but
here is what my experience has told me:
You know I feel certain that this is a worm infestation. Many worms,
including the garden variety roundworm, are not quickly gotten rid of
by ANYTHING. There, also, is nothing that will attack them in ALL
their life stages.
Among the symptoms that I had were things that moved throughout my
body, fast, which bit me. I took substances that at first seemed to
move them to my extremeites and head, then slowed them down, then
forced them into dormant periods (making me foolishly believe I had
solved my problem for a time) - I knew that they were dormant because
I would feel nothing at all and then, after the passage of weeks,
movement would be felt(squirming) in the same places which I felt
them before the dormancy.
Those squirming and moving things I took to be the mature worms, for
which my best solution has been moxidectin (once every 3 months) and
GSE (grapefruit seed extract. I take the drops and not the
capsules). The GSE kills bacteria that the adult(not young) seems to
need for survival. The moxidectin is an antibiotic plus ivermectin.
If you take ivermectin too often, as some nutty doctor and nurse had
recommended, you will probably end up with liver problems, which
happened to some of their patients. Most sites say to take it
(ivermectin) once a year, or twice a year, or every 3 months. It,
they believe, changes your body so you start fighting them off.
Worms trick your immune system to think they are not an alien
substance.
The itchy face thing, I, too, have experienced. I take that to be
the young, hatching out of their eggs. Fenbendazole, I take daily to
kill them so they do not mature to lay more eggs. Eggs, I have read,
can be dormant for up to 5 years. Fenbendazole kills most eggs and
kills the worms when they are young. Taking a small dose of this
every day or every other day, for a very long time, will, I think,
kill off the young and eventually the mature ones will die off from
the other stuff you take, or just on their own. My itchy periods are
spaced further apart, have a shorter duration, and are less intense.
If you do not take the fenbendazole daily, or almost so, you run the
very real risk of a generation being born that is resistant to this,
for some of us, 'wonder' drug. I don't know what you could do if
that happened. So people should not start this drug without making
it a long term commitment, in many opinions.
This is a long process, and takes continuing vigilance, even when you
think you are 'cured', you must continue.
If they are too near my ears (they can enter the brain by laying eggs
in the ear canal(if they are in the brain, you get stroke-like
symptoms depending upon where they hit, staggering gait, speech
problems, etc) or if I get that face itch that you mention (make sure
you are taking the fenben next to forever) I use a vibrator/massager -
I have an old Panasonic model. It either moves them into the neck
area or deeper inside, where there are no nerve endings to be
irritated by them. They die there, from the fenben.
There is a doctor who has some sort of routine that shortens the
dormant period because they are easier to kill when they are active.
I do not know what that routine is.
I am sure you know, by now, but if you kill off many with the GSE or
moxidectin, you may experience times of great tiredness (herxing).
If I could only take one thing for this, it would be fenbendazole, as
I feel certian that, taken over years, it will irradicate them all.
But, drug companies are always coming up with improvements, and
oxibendazole is the upgrade from fenben. I find the liquid fenben
much easier to measure the proper dose, though, and I do not think
the oxi comes in liquid. I have heard that, in some countries,
oxibendazole is sold for human use, in pill form.
But here, with the 'greatest medical system on earth', we don't have
it.

Re: MMS

2008-03-23 06:05:55

Yet another SOS .... I guess the original MMS salesmen was banned so
yet another one gives it a try. I apologise that these claims have
left me so cynical ..... but once burned and decieved by some of
these people, always burned.

Gone

2008-03-23 05:03:23

Stone is gone for language unbecoming.
Rita

itchy face

2008-03-22 20:23:26

About the only thing that's bothering me lately is itchy face. Anybody
know how to stop it??? Thanks... ZIP

Morgellons is a bio-weopon (forget this Loser)

2008-03-22 19:55:33

It's even a waste of time to reading your garbage forget about replying. Go on quote me all you want..it wouldn't matter, why? cause..

Neither you Bastard nor anyone like you could comprehend what lies within So I'm FULLY aware of what i say. Get it..?

stonehouse421 <stonehouse421@...

It is nice to hear something on this site other than the crying
masses, OH what do I do, sob, sob, my life is over ,sob sob, try some
new age siver BS remedy, SOB SOB,Why cant they find out what it is,
sob, sob.Because THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS, THEY FUCKING MADE
IT
order, mind control the masses with radio waves and fake man-made
illnesses, BIG RX HAS THE PILL FOR YOU!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!! The world
government has been spraying you with deadly chemicals since the
fuckin 80s. And now that the world is starting to feel the effects,
all you people can do is cry about it, take over an air force base
near you and I GUARANTEE you'll find morgellons in cannisters hooked
to the back of jets made to look like normal passenger jets, instead
lets worry about our pety illnesses!!!! WORRY ABOUT THE GLOBAL
MONSTER THAT IS SWEEPING OVER US!Worry about the mindless zombies
leaving their own children to boil in cars!!Worry about the north
american union, worry about the mindless people giving up every BIT
of FREEDOM for the sake of "NATOINAL SECURITY" Every body is a
mindless zombie whining about being sick, FACE IT 40,000 people die
of starvation in northern africa every day, done by govts around the
world, and the guise of terrorism to fool you sheep into being
CONTROLLED!!!!! Your sick because there are too many of us for the
Elite families to control anymore!!! They are KILLING US!!!! Not
making us sick!!!If we let those who control the world win at least
50% of us will die!! Your weak because the 13 bloodlines of the
illuminati and the 300+ family branches that own 90% of all the
worlds wealth!!!! LET ME REPEAT THAT!!!!!! 300+ FAMILYS OWN 90% OF
THE WORLDS WEALTH! And we are their SLAVES!!! They all worship satan,
the queen of england is part of one of the major familys, the
merolvingian bloodline, supposed to have ties to both satan and
Jesus!!! did ya know that george bush sr+jr along with bill clinton
and about 25 other presidents are direct descendants of the Queen of
ENGLANDS bloodline!!!! That family and 12 other highly elite
bloodlines(rockerfeller,morgan,ect)OWN US ALL, 1/2 of us have already
been "chipped" for our worth in the NEW WORLD ORDER! Thats right 50%
of us have a microchip implaned under our skin, BEEN VACCINATED
RECENLY, OR HOW ABOUT A FLU SHOT!!! 100 people die world wide of bird
flu and its an epidemic scare?????, yet 2 billion or so are infected
with morgellons and were all crazy if we mention it!!! I am starting
to see the "BUMPS" on almost everybody!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE, quit your
whining and do something! test your waters!!! START TO NOTICE ALL THE
STRANGE SHIT GOING ON!!! OR YOU WILL ALL BE SHEEP TO THE SLAUGHTER,
you'd think at least sheep know they are being killed!!

Re: our own money

2008-03-22 11:15:25

I'd like to converse with ya' old Stoney, but I'm late for my
appointment to be chipped. Ta-ta!

Re: dumbass!!

2008-03-22 08:01:08

Worms CAN invade the brain. They are practically impossible to
remove, once there. I have seen an estimate of 30% being 'cured' by
taking albendazole for 3 months. Perhaps fenbendazole will also work
to do that, being in the same family, but probably not formally
tested on people.
If they are in the brain, the symptoms mimic those of a stroke.
Depending on which part of the brain they are destroying, there can
be speech problems or loss of motor skills, trembling, etc.

safe use of saunas

2008-03-22 00:16:28

Does anyone know if the bacteria can become airborn? I bought a far
infrared sauna. I want to know if it is safe for my family to use it
also. Thanks

Re: [Morgellons] Re:our own money

2008-03-21 13:45:15

Nice post, well said and I couldn't agree more, Linda.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

Re:our own money

2008-03-21 12:17:01

Stone
Your rantings turn people off and make them think you
are crazy. Maybe I do not have a doctorate, but I
have a college degree and spent quite a few years
working with people. One thing I learned is that they
are much more likely to listen if you speak in a
rational voice and slowly work to convince them of why
your point of view is correct. If you run screaming
at them with a hammer in your hand, they run from you.
That is you. But, you are so hell bent on getting
your point across that you obviously would not listen
to anything that made sense. If you are that
intelligent with all of that education, then why are
you not in a place of importance trying to fix this
mess????
Oh, and I believe I am a decendent of the royals too.
I have a disease that is supposedly a genetic mutation
due to royal inbreeding (didn't want to mix the blue
blood) so am I the devil??? An ex-boyfriend may say
so...........but otherwise I am probably more decent
and honest and spiritual that 90% of the population.
So, where do you get off insulting me????
And, i had a flu shot, so if they got the little chip
in me, I wish they would save me all the hassle and
just let me scan my hand and get out of Wal-mart....
Bottom line, we are here hoping to get rid of
something that is making our life miserable.
And, quite honestly, I am just about over the morg
thing. Attacking it as a mite has done wonders. A
little permethrin and ivermectin. Yea, it was all a
conspiracy that MANY docs could not figure that out.
My opinion-- most docs are idiots who just went to med
school to make big bucks.
Linda
Linda

Re: Please read the email Mr. stonehouse sent me!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-03-21 04:57:47

Good luck to you zip, you have no chance. You will continue to be
stupid and ignore the facts!!! All you know, is being fed to you!
Sorry I coulndt break the hold of the ignorance veil covering your
eyes buddy!! I am trying to help!! You started to attack my posts!!!!
I never said a thing to you, if you dont believe the things I have to
say, fine!! Your own loss!!! I sure as hell wasn't nice to you, your
ignorance is so blatant and astounding that it really pissed me off!!
It would be too much to believe it, i understand, really!!! When its
all over and your either dead or a slave to them, i wont have to say
I told you so!!! Do your own research!!! stop watching the propganda
box, the truth is out there for anyone to find!! So if no-one
believes this fine!!! I just hope one or two of you will research
this all for yourselves. You

Please read the email Mr. stonehouse sent me!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-03-20 17:58:11

The attached meaningless gibberish is a personal email sent to me by
the not so friendly Mr. stonehouse421. I'm just posting it here to
illustrate what can happen to you when you sit around on your ass
all day playing with your pecker... ZIP
ATTACHMENT:
Hey jackass, I dont smoke pot schmuck, I do see how you got that
idea!!! stonehouse421 actually has a much deeper meaning than
marijuana. I was a 32nd degree mason asshole, and I am trying to
spread TRUTH!!!!! It is our only weopon, as for 421 it stands for
april21 asshole. I know more about the current state of events in
the world than you could ever know!!! These forums are the only way
I can anonymously spread the truth, sheep like you, only stop the
truth with your stubborness to get over the lies your govt has been
feeding you. I have no more need to explain myself to your dumbass,
i only hope this can open your mind to the obvious truth, and break
the hold of the NAZI propoganda you believe in!!!!!!!!

our own money

2008-03-20 12:08:19

novus ordo seclorum for the dimwitted dumbasses, means NEW WORLD ORDER
in latin!!!!!!!! It was changed awhile back from e pluribus unim which
means each one is free!!!! WHY THE CHANGE ANSWERMAN!!!!??????????

dumbass!!

2008-03-20 07:37:49

Believe whatever you want, I know the truth, YOU IGNORE it!! Read your
email, I sent you an email!!! I was a 32nd degree mason and 421 is an
important date for me!!!!! It has nothing to do with marijuana!!!
Ignorence is bliss and you sure as hell are ignorant, how much bliss do
you have in your life ???, Keep feeding the beast schmuck!!!!I speak of
truths your primitive mind can never comprehend, you should have tried
college, I have 8 years and a doctorate. I have been at meetings with
some of the most important people in the world and I have to explain
myself to someone who obviously has the mental capacity of a 12 year
old, grow up and WAKE UP!!!!! The technology and methods of our govt
far exceed the understanding of your moronic argument!!! HAARP is real,
North American Union IS REAL, Illuminati is real, Chemtrails are
real,bohemian grove is real, MIND CONTROL IS REAL, and they sure do
have you in their grips, wake up!!!!!

Re: Morgellons is a bio-weopon

2008-03-19 22:03:57

Thank you for posting this! I agree. In five years, armed with my
little $10 microscope and a roll of scotch tape I have not yet found a
human without the fibers present (have taped hundreds of foreheads in
Missouri, Pennsylvania, New York and Idaho). Not very scientific, but
enough info for me to draw this conclusion!
(Not everyone is ill!)
I therefore question Dr. Randy Wymore's Position Statement dated June
19, 2007...
"In contrast, such fibers have never been observed in even one person
who does not claim to have Morgellons."
If I found a person who did not have any fibers present, I would study
them intently. There cannot possibly be an antidote for substances
with a 1400 degrees F. melting point, can there?
Regards,
Gail

Re: [Morgellons] I am so tired and discouraged--

2008-03-19 17:20:55

Don't we all get tired and discouraged? Glad that you brought it up..its a emotional roller-coaster ride...Please friend do Not..give up..keep on fighting ( do it for your family). Sometimes i too sink into despair, and that's when i feel like my life is over. But i fight it anyway..for love ones..

Beverly Russell <bev_em@...

I have had morgellons for 2 years come Oct.
I am discouraged with doctors--the best help I have received is just
not to be treated like I am insane or laughing at me--because I have
never had anyone try to find out more about this illness.
Days I try to keep busy, Nights are hell. I go from taking meds.to
get to sleep to cleaning myself all night long.
Last year things got bad--I have talked about this before--I went to
the hospital and they put me in the mental ward, where I stayed for
10 days. But,now things are so bad that I'm thinking I need to go
back there. You see, some nights I beg for death and other nights I
believe I need to end my life. Believe me,I have tried everything,I
take everything anyone in here suggests.
I have a cat and 2 birds, am I am thinking seriously about giving the
birds away and putting the cat to sleep; my cat is 20 years old and
noone will take her. If I die she will have to be put down anyway.
I'm thinking if I go back to that hospital, they put me back in the
mental ward, maybe while I am in the mental ward I can get someone to
believe me, someone might possiblly try to help me.The only reason I
haven't done this yet is because I can't bring myself to put my cat
to sleep but I am just so very tired of trying to fight this losing
battle.
I read the messages in here and it seems some of you are hurting as
much as I am and others are doing better, I have no idea why some of
us are worse than others. I can't find any peace of mind, I worry all
the time that I will give this to someone else, and please don't tell
me I will not cause I won't believe it. Sometimes when something
comes out of one sore it cause a sore somewhere else, so it must be
possible for me to infect others. I advoid my family and most of them
just think I am crazy anyway.
I guess why I am writting this is because I want you to tell me I am
not nuts to think the only help I might get is in a mental ward, I
keep thinking maybe if I could just get one nurse to believe me I
might get some help. Or maybe this illness has just made me so tired
and dicouraged that I just need to get some rest.

Re: I am so tired and discouraged--

2008-03-19 10:42:46

Had the same desparation when I first started resorted to taking
animial dewormers... Now I know that they work and are as good as
people meds and infact made by the same pharma houses... B.T.W. I
take Fenbenazole and Ivermectin paste regularly based on the Morg
activity. ZIP

I am so tired and discouraged--

2008-03-19 08:28:08

I have had morgellons for 2 years come Oct.
I am discouraged with doctors--the best help I have received is just
not to be treated like I am insane or laughing at me--because I have
never had anyone try to find out more about this illness.
Days I try to keep busy, Nights are hell. I go from taking meds.to
get to sleep to cleaning myself all night long.
Last year things got bad--I have talked about this before--I went to
the hospital and they put me in the mental ward, where I stayed for
10 days. But,now things are so bad that I'm thinking I need to go
back there. You see, some nights I beg for death and other nights I
believe I need to end my life. Believe me,I have tried everything,I
take everything anyone in here suggests.
I have a cat and 2 birds, am I am thinking seriously about giving the
birds away and putting the cat to sleep; my cat is 20 years old and
noone will take her. If I die she will have to be put down anyway.
I'm thinking if I go back to that hospital, they put me back in the
mental ward, maybe while I am in the mental ward I can get someone to
believe me, someone might possiblly try to help me.The only reason I
haven't done this yet is because I can't bring myself to put my cat
to sleep but I am just so very tired of trying to fight this losing
battle.
I read the messages in here and it seems some of you are hurting as
much as I am and others are doing better, I have no idea why some of
us are worse than others. I can't find any peace of mind, I worry all
the time that I will give this to someone else, and please don't tell
me I will not cause I won't believe it. Sometimes when something
comes out of one sore it cause a sore somewhere else, so it must be
possible for me to infect others. I advoid my family and most of them
just think I am crazy anyway.
I guess why I am writting this is because I want you to tell me I am
not nuts to think the only help I might get is in a mental ward, I
keep thinking maybe if I could just get one nurse to believe me I
might get some help. Or maybe this illness has just made me so tired
and dicouraged that I just need to get some rest.

ivermectin and permethrin

2008-03-19 01:38:39

I got so caught up in telling some of the sordid
details that I forgot your question re permethrin and
ivermectin.
I have done a lot of reading in the net, I kept
reading that Ivermectin would treat many forms of
parasites and mites and others had tried it. I had
also read that they routinely prescribed it for dogs.
That is how I decided to try the ivermectin. I did not
want to believe I had "BUGS" in my face-- ewwww. But,
despite ignorant derms telling me no, it kept being
fairly obvious there was something in there.
as for the ivermectin, I ordered it off the net and I
took what I thought was the right amount, but was
still confused on all the conversion, etc.
I had also read that permethrin killed mites and had a
cat flea dip that contained it. I first wahed a small
spot on my hand and had no adverse reaction. I am
generally pretty picky about what I use on my cat, and
try to buy good products. If I will put it on her and
I had no reaction on my hand, I figure it was worth a
shot. So, I did a permethrin "treatment" on the
sores. I had good results with a multitude of
kritters of all "forms" exiting the pores and holes
that I did not even see. When I went to see a new dr
that I was considering switching to, I figured I would
hit him with the real test and see if he passed. He
had, actually been the dr during a major snowstorm (at
a doc in the box shop) that also put a woods lamp on
me and ordered the grisiofulvin. He has recently
finished school and now has his own practice. Anyway,
when i told him about the permethrin, he told me he
would prescribe elimite (permethrin cream). One dose
of the cream did not seem to kill all of them. It has
been a slow process, but almost all sores are healed
and there are some small areas "colonies" ?????????
that are slowly breaking apart. This stuff seems to
work. I still occasionally wash with the flea dip and
use Lamisil and Vetscript benedene(which is another
product I recently found that is wonderful). I found
it at Kroger.
I hate it that I have had to resort to animal
products, but sometimes I think animal products are
more straightforward and do the job.
Linda
Linda

Morgellons is a bio-weopon

2008-03-18 15:54:07

Morgellons has been directly linked to chemtrail activity, morgellons
is a mutiple infection with multiple organisms, including nano
technology!!! People, You need to WAKE UP!!! The whole world has
morgellons in one form or another!!!! Population control baby, just in
time to welcome in the amero,our new currency!!! we are all part of
what is called a north american union(USA, mexico,canada), It has been
withheld from us by those most high up in the executive branch!!! This
is the start or the NWO people!!!!! The "fibers" from morgellons are
not biological in any way!!! They are conductors of radiowaves, the
same basic structure as fiber optic cables!!! Those "cell phone"
towers we see everywhere popping up all over, some disguised as
trees!!!! ARE NOT CELL TOWERS!!!! They are elf, ulf, gwen towers. ULF=
ultra low frequency(not used for cell phones) ELF= extra low frequency
(also not used for cells) These signals being broadcasted from these
towers IS EXACTLY THE SAME WAVELENGTHS AS HUMAN BRAIN WAVES!!!!! Wake
up!!!! How can we fight the NWO if we are all sick!!! We are forced to
believe the propoganda machine!!! The worlds most successful hypnotist
is that box in your living room!!! We are, right now, just like the
germans before WW2!!! Screaming to be saved from these "terrorists".
The truth is out there for those who want to see it!!!!

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