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I put some new bug photos in the photo section here (strange group).
Is A3 the flying insect that you see? Also "skin Inside out"
and "under the skin are Zooids and Bryozoans. WTG

Sounds good but, can it be taken internally??? Also, sold by
perscription so it must have a primary med purpose described
somewhere? Zip

http://www.ktvu.com/health/13564852/detail.html?
treets=fran&tid=2657451190813&tml=fran_health&tmi=fran_health_1_021502
06262007&ts=H
'Miracle Water' Offers Hope Against Infection
POSTED: 11:22 am PDT June 25, 2007
PETALUMA -- A Bay Area company is beginning clinical trials on an
experimental product that could change the world. Some call
it "Miracle Water" but Oculus Innovative Sciences has named it
Microsyn.
Company officials tell KTVU a proprietary process turns ordinary
water into a powerful and safe microbicide. The product has now been
approved in Europe and is being tested in the Bay Area as a diabetic
wound treatment.
It smells and feels like ordinary water, but Microsyn, also labeled
Dermacyn, is an electronically charged, super-oxidized solution
containing oxychlorine compounds.
It has the antibiotic properties of bleach, but without any
irritating or noxious affects. The water's specially sequestered
chlorine atoms surround to fatally damage the cells of bacteria and
viruses, but since mammal cells connect and interlock, there is no
toxic effect to human or animal tissue. Doctors tell us it is as safe
as ordinary saline solution.
Dr. Dirk Baumann, surgeon and director of the Mid-Penninsula Wound
clinic, is not affiliated with the manufacturer. He says his early
clinical trial research with Microsyn demonstrates the clear liquid
stops infections in a wide variety of wounds.
"It has shown widespread effectiveness against all bacteria,
including those which are resistant to typical antibiotics," Baumann
told KTVU.
Drug-resistant bacteria are spreading though hospitals, causing
thousands of deaths a year in the United States, Baumann notes, and
this experimental disinfectant kills them all as well as fungi and
viruses. Experts note bacteria, fungi and viruses have never shown
any ability to become resistant to oxychlorine compounds.
"It also speeds healing," Baumann added, "by increasing oxygen to the
wound area."
Oculus Innovative Sciences officials remain guarded about potential
uses, but KTVU has learned that applications considered range from
diabetic wound care, to sterilizing areas after a bio-attack, to
cosmetic face wash and to creating safe drinking water.
One dramatic effect KTVU learned about, is the stirring of a little
Microsyn into a jug of bacteria-fouled water. In moments, the water
is safe to drink. With tens of millions of people worldwide dying
each year from amebic dysentery, this solution could change the face
of disease.

You are a fighter or you wouldn't be crying out for help and you're
right. We have to be very strong under these debilitating and
degrading conditions. I am a fighter to. Perhaps not as big a one as
you but I try. The gains I have made are taken individually small
ones but taken together they are starting to bring me back. It will
happen for you too. Do and use the things that help you the most.
I've been helped by nano silver and bathing is diluted peroxide and
salt. For you it may be different but the key is that different
people are finding different things that improve their lives and you
can too. JUST keep looking... ZIP

Thanks so much for describing your experiences and use of parasitic
pastes. I am considering the use of Zimecterin because it reportedly
has a broader spectrum that some other drugs. I also think you are
right in your assessment that Tape and Hook worms may be an added
complication we face. Love to hear more about you experiences when
you're ready and thanks again... Zip

Hi to all,
I have to find a reason to not give up. Typically, I AM A FIGHTER!!
At age 15 I had my first back surgery for Scoliosis. The most recent
one was 09/15/04 (12 hrs).
At age 19 I was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease. I've only had one
surgery for that thus far.
I have worked with a variety of Special Education Students. They
kept me on my toes. Yes, I was in pain everyday, but I always put
one foot in front of the other. People would ask me, "How do you do
it, you're always smiling." I would say, It's a concious
decision,"PARTICIPATE IN LIFE" or "JUST EXIST" Now people are
telling ME that. I rarely leave the house. If I do, it's my parents
driving me to a doctor appt. (lots of fun)
All that I have done for close to a year now is exist. I no longer
participate. I get so lonely. I live alone with my 3 cats, they
also have this disease. It breaks my heart to see them in pain.
They ARE my children. On the flip side of that, I can't stand what
this is doing to my parents. They are 70. They were enjoying life
until recently because of me. They can't stand being helpless. We
have actually talked about alternatives other than existing.
Do any of you have a somewhat normal life? I am also going through a
very ugly divorce. Really, If this takes over my life, then I don't
want it. I need human contact & touch.
As I mentioned I'm going through a divorce. I should be enjoying my
freedom. I'm 40. Before Morgellons it was hard for me to date cuz
of my back and my Crohn's. It's tough explaing those things. Can
you imagine explaing Morgellons? HaHa
This thing seems to give me a 1 or 2 day break and then it all starts
again.
I will say last Wednesday I went for a drive. (first time I've driven
in about 2 months. That day was the best I have felt for at least
six months or more. Ever since fibers have been popping off me like
crazy. Yesterday, It seemed like the popping just wouldn't stop. and
or course the pain that goes with it. I DO NOT have big open lesions
I get only a few small ones. My fibers come through in tact skin,
some really hurt like hell. I have been describing it, "shock like
feeling"
As I'm sitting here typing, My arms are changing color and I see my
new friends shape. Weird stuff!!
Desperately looking for even a glimmer.
Bonnie
The other disease I have a disgusting at times and I have been
dealing with them fine. Soem reason, not sure what, THIS ONE JUST
FREAKS ME OUT!!
Let's get real, Anyone want to throw out a guess as to how long it
will take for OUR

Zip,
Although this is not what I would consider a foundling father, I
agree with this. The key word is ASSIMILATE. As I would, if I went
to another country. I would learn the language and the laws and what
their people took pride in and try to absorb the native culture as
much as I could. Like poor Nicole, when she converted her faith.
There are so many people here now, who want a setup just like their
native country in the US. They invade towns and take them over.
Before you know it, it is up to the native population to speak their
language, etc.
This is great, if they came from an orderly country with healthcare
for its people and elections with some semblence of fairness and they
all shared the same ideals with us. We could even learn from them.
But when you look at some of those countries native to the
immigrants, that is not what you would really want to turn the US
into. So people fight back.
I find it not a good thing to walk down the street, which used to be
empty, and see gangs of swarthy men hanging around, doing nothing.
It would trouble me if I had a young daughter, walking to school
passed them.
I do not see any attempt at assimilation here. I believe these folks
think we should be assimilating to their ways. If their ways worked
so good, they would still be back home, living in luxuory, I am
thinking.
One of my best friends, growing up, was from Puerto Rico. She and
her family spoke English well. They were a respectable, law abiding
group. The only things I could possibly have problems with were not
really problems. Her mom loved playing religious music and cooked
with lots of garlic. From my present state of health, that garlic
seems like a good idea.
I worked with a good number of Cubans, all respectable, good people,
who speak English. More refined, in manner, than am I, in fact.
These people are assimilating. I do not see that in the gangs on
corners in my neighborhood.

You have alot to say about our founding fathers. Here's what one of
them says about it...
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who
comes here in good faith becomes an
American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an
exact equal with everyone else,
for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of
this creed, or birthplace of origin.
But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an
American, and nothing else but an American
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an
American but something else also,
isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the
American flag We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language and we have room for but one sole loyalty and
that is loyalty to the American people"
Theodore Roosevelt 1007
Zip

I used Derma Tech but I didn't find it helped me either :(

I haven't been writing but I keep coming back here for support very
often. I want to thank all of you for your messages and try to express
my thanks for all the help you have given to me. When things are
really bad, and they too often are, I come here and realize I am not
alone. I come here for hope, and understanding; and I find it.
Thank you and God bless you.
beverly

--What is it that alkalizes the body fast? I need to do this as I
also have fibromyalgia and heard it was also caused by an acid body.
thanks for any info.

Has any one used these products with any sucess? I purchased the
program but dont seem to be getting relief. Maybe I am not using it
right. Wherre does one get the silver and how do u use it? It is like
they are eating the top layer on my skin off my arms and hands.
especially hands between fingers and on nuckles and ridges they are so
sore. Any one have any sugestions on help. Thanks

My Dr. recommended a "mild silver protein" which is supposed to be
suspended silver atoms at 500 ppm (parts per million). There are
different strengths but this is the one he recommended. The Dr. who
manufactures this product is familiar with morgellons and told me that
he recently distributed a newsletter with info on morgs (he will only
send to medical professionals), which my doc said he'd get and forward
to me. If there's any good info in there, I'll be sure to share. I'm
on antibiotics and silver and was doing well before I started the
silver so its hard to know what's working. I just want the magic
bullet that will kill this off completely.
karen

Bonnie, just saw your question about silver...are you continueing to
use it? I take 5 droppers before bed, im using the brand Sovereign

-Bonnie, try this and let us know if it helps. And dont laugh cause
it helped me when my hair was bothering me. Wrap your hair in
aluminun foil for a time.....this will remove static electricity.
Next tape off your face using something that wont hurt, like a
sticky roll or clear packaging tape. Brush your hair to remove the
fibers that are tangeling, and throw away the collected hairs from
the brush. These annoying fibers that cling to skin and hair can be
seen with a long tube blacklight. You are not crazy....this stuff
has to be removed to get
relief.
We are dealing with fibers that are hard to see except with a
microscope, but the microscope God gave us at birth can detect them.
Think of tape as a new way of cleaning off your skin and
enviorment.Check your fingers for these hard to see fibers by
holding them up to a lamp or to the sunlight....then tape them off.
These translucent fibers are a third the size of human hair and

I think it somthing new and may be helpfull. Here's the promo... zip
Zimecterin Gold is the first and only de-wormer approved by the FDA to
eliminate 61 species and stages of equine parasites. Combines
Ivermectin and Praziquantel to offer the most comprehensive equine
parasite control. Offers a spectrum of control so complete it even
protects against tapeworms.

I trimmed my hair to a short bob, but it still itches the back of my neck so I wear it in a ponytail all the time. hope this helps. also start on some colon cleanse to clean your intestines. wash your hair daily with selsun blue shampoo. put a little baking soda in with it to help break up the nitts.then condition well to help with the drying. this is what helps me.
bonbonfried <bonbonfried@...

I remember when I first started mentioning these weird things, which
took a while for me to do that, of course, they thought I
was "Crazy", "Not-Rational", "Delusional" etc...I NEVER mentioned bugs,
I just kept thinking, "somehow my hair from my head is becoming
attached to my face"
I even allowed the dermatologinst to convince me that due to having dry
skin, I must have put on waaaay too much lotion, vaseline, etc... & my
cat's hair was getting stuck in my skin. My counters in the kitchen
kept feeling gooey, (too much lotion again) So I thought, why did I
buy that crap, cuz nothing else made sense or I have completly lost my
mind.
Back to "TOPIC" I have medium to long hair, but somehow, no matter
what I do, my hair ends up in 1 of a few places:
1. My whole face, twisted throught my eyes, nose, ears, mouth,
and especially my throat. This then causes small lesions mostly by the
corner of my eyes, corners of mouth, nose & ears. The lesions are
inside my mouth, throat,nose,ears and also the outside along with my
eyes. When "whatever" releases, It's quite a painful process which
will take a good couple of hours to "Untwist" During that time,
as "It" loosens around my throat, I will be vommiting. Most of the
time it's bial and God knows what else.
Will it help to cut my hair. I'm not sure cuz many of my shorter hairs
end up embedded in my eyebrows and eyes, also the ears. What can I
do? I "think" (with caution) for Today, this is the symptom that gives
me the most problems. I was actually thinking of pulling a "Britney" &
just shave it off. Guess what, it will grow back. So now I'm thinking
lazer hair removal. Maybe I'll post that as a separate topic.
There are so many specific "little" questions I would like to post. I
hope it's o.k. I don't want to get kicked out of this group. Do you
all realize "THIS IS THE LAST HOUSE ON THE BLOCK) haha There's nothing
else out there.
Looking forward to some rapid response. It just took me about 3 hour
to get my hair back & of course release more fibers.
PLEASE, PLEASE, I knwo womeone must have dealt with this awful thing
eating, moving, playing, with the inside and outside of my body.
I will take any help, advice whatever, It's all welcome. Can't deal
with my own hair trying to kill me. I know some people will read that
& be "yeah right" That is exatly how I feel at times. Mostly in my
throat, and my intestines get all tide up too. GROSS!!!!!
BONNIE

Have any of you had luck with doctors in Mexico? It
would seem that they treat more people with parasites
and maybe might be more open to Morgellons? Just a thought.

I remember when I first started mentioning these weird things, which
took a while for me to do that, of course, they thought I
was "Crazy", "Not-Rational", "Delusional" etc...I NEVER mentioned bugs,
I just kept thinking, "somehow my hair from my head is becoming
attached to my face"
I even allowed the dermatologinst to convince me that due to having dry
skin, I must have put on waaaay too much lotion, vaseline, etc... & my
cat's hair was getting stuck in my skin. My counters in the kitchen
kept feeling gooey, (too much lotion again) So I thought, why did I
buy that crap, cuz nothing else made sense or I have completly lost my
mind.
Back to "TOPIC" I have medium to long hair, but somehow, no matter
what I do, my hair ends up in 1 of a few places:
1. My whole face, twisted throught my eyes, nose, ears, mouth,
and especially my throat. This then causes small lesions mostly by the
corner of my eyes, corners of mouth, nose & ears. The lesions are
inside my mouth, throat,nose,ears and also the outside along with my
eyes. When "whatever" releases, It's quite a painful process which
will take a good couple of hours to "Untwist" During that time,
as "It" loosens around my throat, I will be vommiting. Most of the
time it's bial and God knows what else.
Will it help to cut my hair. I'm not sure cuz many of my shorter hairs
end up embedded in my eyebrows and eyes, also the ears. What can I
do? I "think" (with caution) for Today, this is the symptom that gives
me the most problems. I was actually thinking of pulling a "Britney" &
just shave it off. Guess what, it will grow back. So now I'm thinking
lazer hair removal. Maybe I'll post that as a separate topic.
There are so many specific "little" questions I would like to post. I
hope it's o.k. I don't want to get kicked out of this group. Do you
all realize "THIS IS THE LAST HOUSE ON THE BLOCK) haha There's nothing
else out there.
Looking forward to some rapid response. It just took me about 3 hour
to get my hair back & of course release more fibers.
PLEASE, PLEASE, I knwo womeone must have dealt with this awful thing
eating, moving, playing, with the inside and outside of my body.
I will take any help, advice whatever, It's all welcome. Can't deal
with my own hair trying to kill me. I know some people will read that
& be "yeah right" That is exatly how I feel at times. Mostly in my
throat, and my intestines get all tide up too. GROSS!!!!!
BONNIE

Safeguard? Is that a fenbendazole product?
I think many have described this response to fenben and/or a decrease
of symptoms or total remission, but only if it is continually taken
at regular intervals. Make sure to tell her that if she is taking
this that she needs to continue it so that there is no chance for the
morg to become resitant and for the medication to no longer work.
This has happenned to some from what I have heard. There is also
concern about the liver with this drug, so regular liver panels may
be a good idea.
Dana

I tired it once..personally it was too expensive for me to afford N after taking first does of 5 days i didn't see any difference. I prefer horse fenbendazol (dewormer) better...with Silver biotics now its kinda safe to say that my symptoms are pretty much in under control ( well... it was no overnight miracle,but.. it has improved) anway..

i get my fenben..from the petsmart, and you don't need any prescriptions..Well good luck to you LeeAnn.
LeeAnn Paddock <lpaddock1@...

Have any of you tried Safeguard? It is a dewormer for
dogs? My sister took her first dose a weeka nd a half
ago then another dose on 4 days later and she has so
many of these white worms that look like rice and
b;ack specs and things that are pink, brown and long
blackhairs (about 1" long). The places where she had
it the worst are where the long hairs are comming out.
Please let me know if any of you have tried this
medicine?
Thanks,
LeeAnn

Hi Sheryl !!

I too was freaked out in the beginning but now not so much. Don't get me wrong,

I'm still scared but maybe I'm just a little more angry or tired.

In the beginning my boyfriend didn't see it either but I guess as time progressed or

the disease progressed he finally admitted that he could see the things that I saw.

That's when he started searching the net & found info on Morgellons Disease. I

was so relieved that I was not going crazy & that others had the same symptoms

or at least very similar to my own experiences.

Together we can make each other strong & share info on what works & what

doesn't. Glad your here!! Deb [INLINE]

sheryl hudson <frenzied333@...

Yes, me too. I was just scrubbing the walls with bleach today! It is insane the things I can see it and my husband can not. I also feel it all.It's so frustrating because I can't touch anything without the sensation of it going up my fingers or toes.

I also see things that flash before the corners of my eyes. I hear what I would describe as tones,and popping sounds. I am so freaked out. My whole family is affected and I am so scared.

Love,
Sheryl

Hi Karen, nice to "see" you again. All the best dear, Barbara
redibooks <redibooks@...

Thanks so much Patram. I check in but am trying to focus more on life
and less on this. I'm doing well, though having some eyesight issues
and vertigo at night. Its too consistent to be just coincidence. I
believe I posted that one of my dogs died of the bubonic plague :( I
have a new dog now (still 7 dogs) and took in a rescue this week (8).
Always wonder about bringing in a rescue in my house that I'll place
with someone else. UGH
Have you all seen the new progress with the CDC??
http://www.cdc.gov/unexplaineddermopathy/ They're finally making us
legit! Some months ago they took down their link to DOP.
thanks again. karen

Sorry that you lost your dog.
I, too, often just scan posts beause reading about other people's
misery often makes me miserable. We all need a break sometimes. I
kind of dropped out of posting on f1c. People are more sane here, in
my humble opinion.

Thanks so much Patram. I check in but am trying to focus more on life
and less on this. I'm doing well, though having some eyesight issues
and vertigo at night. Its too consistent to be just coincidence. I
believe I posted that one of my dogs died of the bubonic plague :( I
have a new dog now (still 7 dogs) and took in a rescue this week (8).
Always wonder about bringing in a rescue in my house that I'll place
with someone else. UGH
Have you all seen the new progress with the CDC??
http://www.cdc.gov/unexplaineddermopathy/ They're finally making us
legit! Some months ago they took down their link to DOP.
thanks again. karen

Yes, me too. I was just scrubbing the walls with bleach today! It is insane the things I can see it and my husband can not. I also feel it all.It's so frustrating because I can't touch anything without the sensation of it going up my fingers or toes.

I also see things that flash before the corners of my eyes. I hear what I would describe as tones,and popping sounds. I am so freaked out. My whole family is affected and I am so scared.

Love,

Sheryl
deb garrett <dgarrett8138@...

Dear Bonnie,
Welcome to our group! I'm glad your here! [INLINE]

In response to your question.... Yes, my home & environment have been affected.
Way before I ever knew about Morgellon's, I felt that some sort of electrical charge
was involved. I would see like a blue streak or a flash(small in form) of light that
would catch my eye & vanish very quickly or like something florescent flew by me & disappear instantly.Also, majority of the times when I enter a room something
creaks or lights flicker, making a static sound like a bug being zapped by a Light
Zapper that would hang in a backyard patio to keep bugs away. By creaking, I mean
like walls, doors, furniture & light bulbs. Especially, if my lesion is active.

I have seen these flying bugs very tiny on ceiling, at night on lamps,on bathroom mirror,
in bedroom, pretty much everywhere in my home. I have also seen it come out of me because it almost flew in my eye. I now have some sort of worms in my front yard tree branches.

I find little pieces of waded up tissue paper everywhere & fuzz or hairballs all over carpet.
I vacuum constantly. Then there's the film or like dust or skin flakes all over furniture even
though I dust. I see furniture(ie: my piano) with lesions deep grooves that I know for fact
were not there a month ago. Some sort of brownish-yellow film on walls that took quite
a bit scrubbing to remove.

My point is your not alone & your definitely NOT CRAZY!! You can e-mail me anytime I
love to talk. Deb :o)

Dear Bonnie,

Welcome to our group! I'm glad your here! [INLINE]

In response to your question.... Yes, my home & environment have been affected.

Way before I ever knew about Morgellon's, I felt that some sort of electrical charge

was involved. I would see like a blue streak or a flash(small in form) of light that

would catch my eye & vanish very quickly or like something florescent flew by me & disappear instantly.Also, majority of the times when I enter a room something

creaks or lights flicker, making a static sound like a bug being zapped by a Light

Zapper that would hang in a backyard patio to keep bugs away. By creaking, I mean

like walls, doors, furniture & light bulbs. Especially, if my lesion is active.

I have seen these flying bugs very tiny on ceiling, at night on lamps,on bathroom mirror,

in bedroom, pretty much everywhere in my home. I have also seen it come out of me because it almost flew in my eye. I now have some sort of worms in my front yard tree branches.

I find little pieces of waded up tissue paper everywhere & fuzz or hairballs all over carpet.

I vacuum constantly. Then there's the film or like dust or skin flakes all over furniture even

though I dust. I see furniture(ie: my piano) with lesions deep grooves that I know for fact

were not there a month ago. Some sort of brownish-yellow film on walls that took quite

a bit scrubbing to remove.

My point is your not alone & your definitely NOT CRAZY!! You can e-mail me anytime I

love to talk. Deb :o)

onbonfried <bonbonfried@...

Hi there, I'm pretty new to this group. This is the 1st day in, I
don't know how long, that I have even been able to read anything on-
line. This thing is kicking my ass.
My family finally believes me. Thank God for small favors, but they
don't always believe the things that I see happening in my own home.
I'm kind of afraid to say exactly cuz it does sound crazy, but if
anyone could share some of their experiences within their own
environment, maybe it would help me.
I feel like my house gets filled with "static electricity" if that's
even possible. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to set a cup on a
table. That's one little example. I will write more if i'm not the
only that experiences "weird things" happening in their home.
Open to anything,
bonnie

Screw worms aren't really worms, they're flies. The new world screwworm
flies are called C. hominivorax and it lays its eggs in eye orbits,
nostrils, vagina, exposed sores, mouth, sinuses, any natural body
opening. This may explain the flies coming out of my eyes. Need to
investigate more. My 2 1/2 year old granddaughter has new bumps on her
head and her hair fell out where the bumps are. I swear to GOD someone
is going to listen to me to save that baby.
Cheryl

Have any of you tried Safeguard? It is a dewormer for
dogs? My sister took her first dose a weeka nd a half
ago then another dose on 4 days later and she has so
many of these white worms that look like rice and
b;ack specs and things that are pink, brown and long
blackhairs (about 1" long). The places where she had
it the worst are where the long hairs are comming out.
Please let me know if any of you have tried this
medicine?
Thanks,
LeeAnn

Bonnie,
You are definitely not the only one. I can't say that I have
expereinced the things you are talking about very much, but I have
read MANY similar encounters, too many to easily dismiss. At first I
DID think that some of the unfortunate people who have morg are also
affected by some neuro problmes that cause them to misinterperet what
they are seeing, but the more similarities in stories that I read the
less easily dissmissed they become.
Here are some of the things I have read-
Electricity in the home, 'sparks'
Shapes of faces in piles of laundry, clouds, water, or random
arrangements of small items
Twisted bits of paper towels and fabric (like curtains) around the
home
Feelings of being possesed or environment haunted...
Things of that nature.
I still want to beleive that at the heart of these coincidences are a
specific kind of brain involvement or seizure activity, and that to
those who do not know they are having these kinds of seizures, it may
seem incredibly frightening and VERY real. I have had some evidence
of this kind of seizure in myself, and the prevalent feeling when
that happens is that there is an entity in the room with me. I
see/feel/taste/smell strange things. Especially notable is the
electric feeling, like electric tinges behind my eyes and in the back
of my throat. I have read a lot about this because it does really
scare me. Not all seizure activity causes full convulsions, some are
merely sensory, partial or absence seizures.
You might feel better if you could look up this kind of seizure and
see if it may describe some of what is happening to you.
(search for: temporal lobe epilepsy, partial complex seizures,
sensory seizures, absence seizures, sleep paralysis and false
awakening dreams)
I would have to know more to know if that may be the source of these
things for you. Like it being impossible to set a cup on the table...
is that because you are having trouble with co-ordination, balance,
and depth perception, or something else?
You will most likely find me incredibly open minded, but I will also
try to find any 'natural' explanation before concluding anything
beyond that is going on. I do beleive there are things beyond the
explanations of science in this world, but I am going to try to
explain them first. I would like to help you if I can, and if you are
uncomfortable sharing here, I will gladly speak to you privately.
danacantstop@...
Dana

Hi, im dealing with this for several years. Found it on
dogs...researched and came up with this article..."How to find
mystery chemtrail fibrils by sue miller " (put that in the search to
get it). I spent a week building up the courage to disprove the
article and took a blacklight outside..the dogs ran to me and were
covered in the fibers. I took the blacklight inside and found them
all over(as described in article), and found them in my skin pores.
I thus began what i call my "fiber fight" by vacuuming them up, and
it has helped, after using fabric dryer sheets for 14 years... to
not use dryer fabric sheets. I was able to heal the sores on the
dogs using silver(sovereign silver from whole foods, vitimin
shoppe$12). The sores are ulcers created by the fibers going into
the skin pores. I decided to get them out of my face. The skin was
fine looking, but i bought the new 10x makeup mirror(walmart $6),
and organic aloe gel(whole foods $6), and on applying the aloe...my
chin turned red like a lobster, puckered up and the pores began to
expel white fibers. I could see all this in the mirror, and using
angled tweezers would remove the white fiber from the pore and more
fibers would come out. Applying this routine nightly, this process
has revealed about 20 lesions of various sizes. Some of these
embedded "fiber bites", as i have come to call them...i remember
getting over the years, and they would just "go away". However, i
know now that they were just covered up and causing problems. The
worst one , above my lip has been embedded for 9 years(i have a
photo that dates when it first became a problem). Due to the
proceedure i use...it is almost healed. Now that the ulcers are
revealed....i use miracle foot aloe cream(walgreens$10) to sit on
the sores in a pile. This cream melts the lesion covering. After
several applications of that, i apply baking soda to the lesions.
The baking soda pulls the swollen embedded fibers up, and
counteracts the fibers defense of creating goo or glue. Layer by
layer, night by night, i use this application to get to the bottom
of the ulcer, which has been embedded in my skin and covered up by
dry skin. At the bottom of these lesions, are nubs of the tops of
white embedded fibers that are hooked into the skin underneath. They
are impossible to pull out...but cannot overcome the application of
baking soda. I let the soda dry out, remove by spraying with
distilled water, then reapply the soda. When i am done with a
session, i put the liquid silver on it, or silver gel bandages(king
soopers $5). I have been doing this for about a month, some smaller
lesions are healed...no scar. The larger lesions are almost at the
bottom of the fibers in the bottom of the ulcers. I have hope these
will also heal well. I have found that there is a point in removing
these....that they get worse before better....because they are
larger under the skin than on the surface appearance. But, i have
endevored to be the servant of the process...just removing what is
revealed, and taking time for the process to proceed. The hardest
part of this, is a point where the ulcer "bleeds out". The one under
my chin, once it began seeping into the baking soda...was seeping
with repeted applications of soda for 9 hours. During this time,
many different teeth, sinus and gum nerves were sensitive. Since i
have alot of dental work....i chose to think these lesions may have
contributed to my dental problems. I have proceeded in humility,
with prayer, just being a mom...no medical training. My family and
friends are horrified and interested, and watching. None of them
want to look at their skin with the blacklight or look into the 10x
mirror. I have been braver than i want to be, but im following what
i saw work successfully for the sores on my dogs. I feel violated
by these manmade fibers all over everything, and i thank God for
helping me get rid of them. If i itch, i tape the area with
packaging tape til it doesnt itch anymore. I can put the tape on
white paper and use my mothers day gift....a proscope-tv 200x
microscope, and see exactly what was bothering me...same fibers as
pictured on the morgellons sites. I get these off the bed/upholstry
with the vacuum or better yet...the new paint roller size, rollers
of tape(laundry section($10). The micro dusting cloth picks these
up fast off smooth surfaces. I can hold my hand up to a lamp or
sunlight and see the tiny wavy clear fibers sticking to my
fingertips and remove them with tape. I can check with the
blacklight in the mirror, and remove these fibers off my face. I
have seen them anchored unpright going into lesions. I dont know
what this is, but i do know i want to get rid of it, and with Gods
help , i am. My motto...reveal, reverse, remove, restore. I have
several friends who have let me check their homes for these
fibers...yes, they have them also. They choose not to deal with it,
and they can see no sores on their face. They have let me tape them
and check on my tv microscope, and yes, the array of fibers are
there. But, they dont have lesions, and so....they dont worry about
it. This reality is hard to deal with....but you are not alone. God
bless you and your family, and may God help us help them.

I am so sorry you cancelled your insurance, but I guess if we hear of
doctors starting to get better training in parasites you can pick it
up again.
Hang in there, Tony, there may be some good news coming down the
road. The CDC has gotten so many people complaining, and doctors,
esp southern, are reporting cases of stuff that they have never seen
before. Even though it may not be Morgellons, specifically, they are
parasites. When doctors start complaining that they need help, the
government is sure to respond. Trust that I believe this, I, who so
often hate the government. It is just a matter of time, so hang in
there.
At least it is good not to be called nuts.

Build your immune system: Lots of vit c, fresh garlic, astragalus,
echineacia, omega 3s, primrose oil, mutliple vitamins.
Internally: take herbs like cats claw, gaviola, pau d' arco, neem,
drink apple cider vinegar twice daily, fenbendazole, colloidial
silver, aloe.
Externally: use Listerine as an astringent do not wipe-lift. Use DSP
cream or NeemAura Naturals - apply a thin layer, let it sit for 2
minutes then lift it off, reapply, 3 times daily - rotate the creams.
Eyes: One drop of collodial silver in each eye morning and night.
This will purge the organism out of your eyes onto your skin.
Saturate small squares of paper towels with witch hazel and gently
lift and cleanse the eye area then apply the cream.
Nose: Saturate qtips with Listerine wipe the nostrils inside and out
twice a day. Do this repeatly until the itching stops, redness
lessens, and you can no longer see the organism. Apply cream inside
and out. At night use a qtip to apply Vicks over the cream. The Vicks
lessens the activity so you can sleep better.
Drink 8 glasses of water a day.
Get 7-8 hours of sleep a night.
Reduce levels of stress with exercise, fresh air, deep breathing,
yoga, etc.
None of this is a quick fix, it takes time and patience. There is
hope and a great deal of support available in these chat groups.
All the best, Barbara

Yes! Yes! Yes! I see this now in the house very clearly. I could not
before and now I can. I see blue/gray smudges that look like or
could pass as, spills. I see even more but amnot going into the
details. I am wondering why
? Why can I see this so clearly, my friend with Morg. can too, but
no onw else can. I feel it, too. My own silent insanity. Why? This
illness is also kicking my butt and i am trying to fight back. It
gets worse when I do. Ideas?
Love,
Sheryl

I didn't join as those guys didn't look interesting ..... thanks
bikerguy .... now go away

I think I've mentioned this before a while ago, but if anybody is
looking for a doctor, look for one in your area that treats chronic
illness like Chronic Fatigue or Fibromyalgia. They are starting to
hear of morgellons and would be more open to treating symptoms as they
do their specialties. I've emailed with a dr in texas that said her
and her affiliated chronic illness office (also texas) would see
morgellons patients and try to help them. I found a doc that is board
certified in family practice and holistic medicine. He's treating me
with antibiotics (at my request) and mild silver protein, (a newer
form of colloidal silver). I found my doc by searching this site for
a doc in my area, I did not enter any personal information in order to
search
http://www.holisticmedicine.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=49
I know I don't post much, I just check for any new info and go my
merry way. Hope people are making some progress. Seems like
fenbendazole is still one of the better options!
karen

Handsome and Cool Bikers looking for fun! Chat with them here:
http://bikerguy.u.googlepages.com/bikerboyz.htm

I used to have Kaiser Permanente. My doctor was no help at all, unfortunately he didn't have any knowledge on Morgellons. But however..he never accused me of being delusional or anything like that ( so..i guess i should be grateful for that [INLINE] ), plus he did show some concern when i described to him all my symptoms. So he'd send me to a Kaiser infectious disease specialist, which was big let down for me..cause infectious too had no answer for me ( i asked that infectious guy if he had ever seen any patients with similar symptoms as mine, he replied "no" to me that says it all..) since he couldn't do anything about it either, he suggested that i should see their dermatologist, they might have answer for me (ha..it sounded too good to be true), it was really frustrating and perhaps waste of times..so i decided to cancel my insurance.

All in all i think i think Kaiser doctors are just like anybody else. But good luck to you guys...

Anyone go to Kaiser in Woodland Hills, CA.? Or does anyone live close
by? I live in Westlake Village. Just trying to reach out and survive.
Bonnie

Yes it's a site created which is stating that Morgellons is not a
disease, and that all of us suffering are DELUSIONAL. They feel the
internet has caused some mass hysteria and has brought people
together to share Delusions Of Parasitosis. Like this is some disease
we really want to share?????
I was never even on any Morgellons groups when I first started
showing symptoms and only heard about our disease after months of
suffering. I first heard that others in the San Francisco Bay Area
(California) were coming down with a "Mystery Illness" while watching
Fox 2, News from Oakland, CA. I was on a segment wit this same
station a few months later as I had contacted the head of
epidemiology in CA and received a "generic reply" to my inquiry
concerning Morgellons (2004) So MORGELLONSWATCH.COM's therory that we
all are getting our disease from the internet is so inaccurate and
ridiculous!!!!!
MORGELLONSWATCH.COM's premise is that our disease is NOT REAL. This
can hinder our efforts for help and treatment if doctors do a search
about our illness and read this negative propaganda!!!!
wendy

Hi there, I'm pretty new to this group. This is the 1st day in, I
don't know how long, that I have even been able to read anything on-
line. This thing is kicking my ass.
My family finally believes me. Thank God for small favors, but they
don't always believe the things that I see happening in my own home.
I'm kind of afraid to say exactly cuz it does sound crazy, but if
anyone could share some of their experiences within their own
environment, maybe it would help me.
I feel like my house gets filled with "static electricity" if that's
even possible. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to set a cup on a
table. That's one little example. I will write more if i'm not the
only that experiences "weird things" happening in their home.
Open to anything,
bonnie

My comment must have been too factual and undermined their debunking
bull shit. They left on those VERY IMPORTANT comments about the
movie, "BUG" which is more important than the facts concerning
Morgellons.
I guess if the facts are too real and intelligently stated that those
posts are removed. GO FLIPPEN FIGURE!
Wendy

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone else has had this experience-Yesterday I went to the mall with my daughter and tried a skirt on-at first it seemed like there was all this "glitter" due to the neon lights, but a second later it became quite clear that there were TONS of tiny fibers, not like the long ones, but tiny, flying onto the mirror- I thought "oh my g--, are those coming from me?, are they coming from the fabric of the skirt?-It seems as though there was something about the neon lights, perhaps the energy they put out, it was WEIRD! Has this happened to anyone else?

Lori

Wendy,

excellent letter! I am so glad you wrote this. About a year ago I came across their site and was pissed that they were claiming that we were all crazy. I ended up emailing and sharing just how upset I was, and my experieces. I ended up speaking with a guy from the LA area named Mike, and shared my story. He had never met anyone with Morgellons, and from what I recall, it was almost as if it was a "hobby" to create such a controversial site. As it turned out, he did appear to at least be open, even temporarily, that this may exist, (or maybe my anger scared him and so he was trying to be nice to get rid of me:) partly joking here, as that wasn't my impression really-Do you know if someone named Mike from the LA area is still involved with Morgellonswatch? You will have to let us know the response from them-By the way, I tried the epsom salts last night, and I do think it helped. I have to say, I think the fenbendazole is definately helping, more than anything else
has. Congrats on your sons graduation. On that note, I do want to add a comment to a post from Dana, since I am sitting here typing - I can appreciate your concern for your son and that you cannot give him dewormers-particularly if child welfare is involved-I too am concerned for my children and don't know what I will do if they begin to show overt symptoms-I have some suspicion, due to fatigue and cannot tell if it is "normal" teenage tiredness or not. They have had fibers fly off of them, and again, I am not sure if that is due to fibers from me being everywhere, or if they are coming from them. In the meantime, I watch and pray for their protection, as I do for all of us-

Lori
RIPP@...

Wendy Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
I have suffered with this for over 3 years now and it is definitely a
disease, not a delusion. I am an ex veterinary technician and have
dealt with parasites, testing, diagnosis, and treatment. When I first
started showing signs of this illness I immediately went on-line to
investigate hundreds of parasite listings as to find what I was
feeling and seeing exit through my skin. I could not come up with any
parasite that met any of my symptoms.
This disease is not a laughing matter and for you people to berate
and belittle us is inhumane. I only hope that you or any family
member or friend never comes down with this disease. It is
debilitating, the lesions are real (non-healing for months and
scarring the skin) the chronic fatigue ruins your life, the fibers
are real (they are extremely tiny most appear to be the size or
smaller of a pin head, yet upon magnification show the "ball of
interlaced fibers". Not all are colored.)the intense never ending
itching and crawling sensations will "drive you crazy" (think about
having ants crawling all over your skin, yet nothing is visible).
I have been trained in the veterinary field, performed many
laboratory tests (blood/urine/cultures/stool samples/skin scrapings/x-
rays/surgery/administration of treatments) and I am not a stupid,
uneducated individual. Believe me my life has been altered in so many
ways since coming down with this illness. I was told by a
dermatologist that I was creating the lesions on my skin as a "means
of getting attention". I don't think anyone wishes to have open,
painful, non-healing lesions all over their body. Having to wear long
sleeved shirts and pants in 90+ degree weather is not my idea of fun!
Scars that look like giant vaccination marks visible on the skin
cause embarrassment. This illness has also forced me to stop dating
and seeking out and participating in social activities. I had to stop
going to the YMCA to exercise as my skin prevented me from using
their facilities, as no skin rashes were allowed on the exercise
equipment or in the swimming pool.
Take time to show compassion for those suffering. Take time to
realize that the AIDS epidemic was "dismissed" when it first became
evident that there was an illness infecting people. So many people
lost their lives as no one seemed to care or hear their pleas for
help until thousands came down with the illness and it began
infecting everyone, NOT just homosexual men.
Please remove your negative material from the internet as it is
indeed hurtful, HATEFUL, and untrue. No one is making $$$ on this
except the many "snake-oil-salesmen" trying to cash in on sufferers
professing a cure to an unidentified causative agent. They prey upon
us as we do become desperate for ways to stop this illness. We are
our own researchers, doctors, and pharmacists as we are NOT helped by
the general medical community. How can doctors be expected to treat
us as there is no protocol to follow? They would be risking their
licenses by treating us as there is no set treatment known. We are
stuck in a catch 22 senario: the CDC tells us to have our doctors
treat us, and our doctors do not know what to do. Raise awareness for
us with the time and effort you use to debunk our suffering. Turn
your negativity around and help us all. Remember, CHILDREN are also
suffering from this globally. At least have some compassion for them.

What if some one made an appointment with their dr. and then we all
show up to the appointment. It would be great if we got 20 or more
people. The more people that show up,the better. Maybe we have to march
to Washington like the AIDS victims. I don't know what it will take but
we are the pioneers in this nightmare.
Sincerely, Cheryl

Wendy
Excellent piece of writing. I think it says all the right things and
sets the right tone. Zip

Wendy Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
I have suffered with this for over 3 years now and it is definitely a
disease, not a delusion. I am an ex veterinary technician and have
dealt with parasites, testing, diagnosis, and treatment. When I first
started showing signs of this illness I immediately went on-line to
investigate hundreds of parasite listings as to find what I was
feeling and seeing exit through my skin. I could not come up with any
parasite that met any of my symptoms.
This disease is not a laughing matter and for you people to berate
and belittle us is inhumane. I only hope that you or any family
member or friend never comes down with this disease. It is
debilitating, the lesions are real (non-healing for months and
scarring the skin) the chronic fatigue ruins your life, the fibers
are real (they are extremely tiny most appear to be the size or
smaller of a pin head, yet upon magnification show the "ball of
interlaced fibers". Not all are colored.)the intense never ending
itching and crawling sensations will "drive you crazy" (think about
having ants crawling all over your skin, yet nothing is visible).
I have been trained in the veterinary field, performed many
laboratory tests (blood/urine/cultures/stool samples/skin scrapings/x-
rays/surgery/administration of treatments) and I am not a stupid,
uneducated individual. Believe me my life has been altered in so many
ways since coming down with this illness. I was told by a
dermatologist that I was creating the lesions on my skin as a "means
of getting attention". I don't think anyone wishes to have open,
painful, non-healing lesions all over their body. Having to wear long
sleeved shirts and pants in 90+ degree weather is not my idea of fun!
Scars that look like giant vaccination marks visible on the skin
cause embarrassment. This illness has also forced me to stop dating
and seeking out and participating in social activities. I had to stop
going to the YMCA to exercise as my skin prevented me from using
their facilities, as no skin rashes were allowed on the exercise
equipment or in the swimming pool.
Take time to show compassion for those suffering. Take time to
realize that the AIDS epidemic was "dismissed" when it first became
evident that there was an illness infecting people. So many people
lost their lives as no one seemed to care or hear their pleas for
help until thousands came down with the illness and it began
infecting everyone, NOT just homosexual men.
Please remove your negative material from the internet as it is
indeed hurtful, HATEFUL, and untrue. No one is making $$$ on this
except the many "snake-oil-salesmen" trying to cash in on sufferers
professing a cure to an unidentified causative agent. They prey upon
us as we do become desperate for ways to stop this illness. We are
our own researchers, doctors, and pharmacists as we are NOT helped by
the general medical community. How can doctors be expected to treat
us as there is no protocol to follow? They would be risking their
licenses by treating us as there is no set treatment known. We are
stuck in a catch 22 senario: the CDC tells us to have our doctors
treat us, and our doctors do not know what to do. Raise awareness for
us with the time and effort you use to debunk our suffering. Turn
your negativity around and help us all. Remember, CHILDREN are also
suffering from this globally. At least have some compassion for them.

So many of us are grasping at straws to find the Morgellens culprit.
Before having this disease I'm sure these flies were in your
environment without you ever noticing. Getting rid of them couldn't
hurt, but before we can confirm the vector or cause for Morgellons
one cannot be sure if these flies are the cause of oour disease .....
it could even be mosquitoes, moths, spiders, ants .......who knows?
wendy

The helicoptor bugs, so named by williamthegreat......came to visit
me, not last night but the night before, and the night before that.
The first visit, after a hot day -was later in the evening after
dark. The windows were open with a cool breeze coming thru the
screens. The lamps that were on revealed tiny black bugs on the
ceiling above the lamps. They are small and black, and in several
sizes of small. They are small enough to come thru the
screens. These tiny black bugs walk
upside down on the ceiling, and also hop upside down across the
ceiling. If they stop, they seem to attach, so that to vacuum them
off their spot, i had to put the long tube vacuum attachment up
close and personal to de-goo them from the spot.They also make an
appearance in the bathroom sink basin, and i see themsometimes do
a "fly by" in my peripheral
vision.
The first nights visit, i vacummed about 50 total above
about 4 lamps.They are not as smart as flys to avoid the suction,
but do seem to hop away from it
unsuccessfully.
The second night i did 3 sessions, leaving the windows open
to confirm them coming in from outside.I vacuumed over 100. My arms
are stiff from the effort, but last night there were no bugs on the
ceiling even though the windows were open again. It was worth the
effort. I dont find these in my skin, but in their behavior to get
water i can see why they may be interested in eyes or moist areas of
skin.
When i first got my microscope, i was out hiking and got an
itchy spot on my face. I let it be, came home, taped it off with
clear packaging tape and put it under the microscope. With the naked
eye it was about the size of a piece of pepper, on the tv microscope
it was worth screaming about. Full screen, stuck by its backside to
tape, eyes open wide, mouth in a big 0, and one leg partially stuck
waving at me!
Could this be the silentsuperbug? Does this relate to the mystery
skin disease? I dont know, but it does put some value to the
saying..."keep looking up".
And just what are these unwanted visitors up to anyhow? I suspect
they made the grey hard to see webs that i found all over my home
from last january when i read williamthegreats report.
Look up, folks, and give a report if you find these.

I wonder if Dr Marina Ball will get Morgellons after flicking off
Niels' "black speck". Are those black specks contagious?
Rita

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=rash&thread=11\
82232750&page=1
In other threads, people have mentioned Kaiser w/r/t Morgellons
and Parasitic infections. My feeling is that Kaiser are "Morgellons Denialists"
and are certainly "Chronic Lyme Denialists". Please
post your experiences with Kaiser... plus people should know
that certain Kaiser doctors are best avoided -- Dr. MARINA BALL (their top
so-cal dermatologist... wasted my time asking whether I used coke
or methamphetamines, flicked off a "black speck" off my leg
instead of looking at it under a microscope to see the embedded
fibers) and Dr. Salvador Hernandez (an infectious
disease doc) is a complete A.S.S.H.O.L.E.... and Dr. Lincoln
Spurgeon (infectious disease and medical section chief... who
is totally conservative, old-school, lyme-denialist, but was at least willing
to run some parasite tests so i'm withholding judgement... oh and he's
not completely rude like Dr. Hernandez so I haven't completely
given up hope).
Kaiser. Two weeks the infectious disease doc they sent me to in Lakeview (Dr.
Salvador Hernandez) doesn't believe in chronic Lyme. I never mentioned
Morgellons. He said the fact that I think my joints hurt less when on low dose
of abx is all in my mind! He prescribed Prozac!
Cumanda/Samento/Burbur so I have no open lesions now. My biggest problem is the
extreme fatigue. I sleep waaaaay too much.
while trying to get the results of the latter, it turns out they were sitting on
the POSITIVE chlamidia pneumoniae test from April... while opining that i should
stop all my antibiotics and antifungals.
abnormalities... since i keep putting them infront of Kaiser lakview's ID
docs... but they don't want to run the tests that might show
rash, crawling/itching. It continued over 3 months with Kaiser saying he was
probably having a reaction to his meds. Their derm said he didn't have scabies.
period and the rash kept getting treated as a reaction to his meds or even
ignored.
had Norwegian scabies. By this time he was almost in a comma with failing
kidneys and rasping breath which they said was pneumonia. (He never got the flu
or colds in the 25 years I knew him.)
the hospital changed the diagnosis (a relative now had a scabies diagnosis and
pressured the hospital).
diagnosis--except his was so bad (crusted on the arms) they called it Norwegian
scabies. This time they used a better microscope, and sent in an epidemiologist
as I recall.
gloves (since the doctors repeatedly said he wasn't contagious). By the time he
went to hospital I now had dramatic crawling---scalp, eyelashes, eyebrows,
nostrils, ears and even a bit in the mouth and of course, the hands.
taken to help the 3 of us already experiencing symptoms. Due to long distance I
was not able to get contact the relative with power of attorney in time to delay
the quick cremation.
what Public Health called it --as they were required to be involved to protect
others in his residential living.

Hi Neils and others,

Again, I hope I have the name right-the first time I called it obendazole, when it had an x in it, anyhow, and now that I have thrown the box away, I am spelling it based on my memory.

Well , my eyes didn't turn into x's so to speak, and I am still here. I don't know if it was much different from fenbendazole, it's really hard to say. What I do know, is that I seem to be improving, I think. I have gotten a couple of new small lesions, tiny almost, but I wonder if that is my body purging the stuff ???? Anyhow, my lips are looking better, still not 100%, purged some fibers and gunk out of eyelid, which although is still without eyelashes in a section, is no longer swollen, red or itchy. The one lesion on the side of my face is still kind of bad, but that could be my fault as it hasn't healed and hasn't healed...., with a "circle" that doesn't seem to scab over either, so yesterday I attempted to remove it with tweezers, and again, it was all of that long stringy stuff that won't even rinse off too well under water, you have to pull it off the tweezers too-probably enough detail here. So I put silver on it and have it covered with a bandaid, so as not
to allow any other organisms to invade it, to the best of my ability-Sorry about my going off on a tangent here-In sum, it didn't seem to harm,??? And probably was good to switch so that my body, and this morgellons crap doesn't get "used to" the fenbendazole. Another thing I thought was interesting on the label, was that it stated it was a .....(can't remember the first part of the word)...-cide, something like parasiticide or something like that-the ending "cide" means to kill-whereas on the fenbendazole it states it is a dewormer-but I didn't note anything with the suffix of "cide"-so again not quite sure of the difference internally. I also place these meds on as ointments to the lesions-That is where I noticed a difference in some respects- I have not had a burning or painful experience that I recall with application of fenbendazole-on the other hand, the oxbendazole burned when placed on the lesion, alot. That could be due to the active ingredient or what it is
mixed in, not sure. So I know I am lengthy, maybe a female trait perhaps, (lol :) and I hope this helps.

Lori

Cheryl,

this did not start in my eye, it started for me on the sides near my ears, but has recently moved into my eyes/eyelids and I am also now missing a section of eyelashes on my right eye. For me what came out was the fibers, alot of them for such a small area, and the stringy gooey "stuff". I have also had the other material that you are describing come out of other areas and on one occasion did have an actual fly or knat come out of a lesion near my wrist. I still have a hard time believing what I saw, and still think to myself, "did I really see that?". I am glad you are here and sharing. I think you will find a lot of support and helpful information here. What has been helpful to me recently has been using apple cider vinegar, a couple of tablespoons in water, a few times a day, mega doses of vitamin C, Colloidial Silver, both internally and topically and taking fenbendazole daily-this is also an animal med and am not a doctor, but it has been helpful to me. We are
here for you and can relate to what you are experiencing-hang in there,

Lori
cheryltber <cheryltber@...

I joined this group awhile back but haven't posted until now.Here'
what I've been going thru.
I noticed my eyelashes (left side) began falling out last year.
Didn't know what to think, thought it would pass. In April of this
year, I finally went to the Dr. She prescribed an antibiotic and
suggested i use Vaseline to stop the itching. I used the vaseline on
both eyes and brown and black particles started coming out of my
skin where the vaseline had been applied. I was horrified. I told my
friend about it and showed him, saying "What if I have this all
over?" I put vaseline on the rest of my face and particles of black
and brown gunk started coming out. I was scared. The next day I
bought lavender baby oil to put on all over. The particles REALLY
started coming out. Some were hard and disc shaped, some were
cylindrical, some were soft and gooey. Then a few days into it I
actually had flies coming out of my eyes. I had lost an easy 20 lbs.
and went to the ER in Temple. I was observed and given respirdal for
parasitic hallucinations. I got no relief.
We live on a farm and had a new bottle of cattle Ivermectin on hand.
I dosed my self topically with the correct amount for my weight and
this has seemed to keep the bugs at bay. I don't think I'm rid of
them but the ivermectin has them down to what thy were. Ihad had a
horibble low metallic hum in my right ear for a couple of years.
Sometimes it wouyld make me want to throw up. I had a terribble
stabbing pain running from my left ear down into my neck towards my
heart. I was pretty sure I was goig to have a heart attack at times.
Since the Ivermectin, this has subsided.
I have given the basic outline of what I've been thru. Just like you
all, there's more to the story. I had resigned myself to dying and
in my mind I had died a few times during the course of this little
horror story. So far Ivermectin has given me some relief.
Sincerely, Cheryl

Cheryl
Thanks for posting and glad you're feeling a bit better. If you read
over the posts here you'll find references to some other things that
may help you. I think two of the most effective products (at least
for me) are Nano Silver (I use Nutra Silver) and Fenbenazole ( I use
the equine 10% from safe guard)... Regards Zip...

I joined this group awhile back but haven't posted until now.Here'
what I've been going thru.
I noticed my eyelashes (left side) began falling out last year.
Didn't know what to think, thought it would pass. In April of this
year, I finally went to the Dr. She prescribed an antibiotic and
suggested i use Vaseline to stop the itching. I used the vaseline on
both eyes and brown and black particles started coming out of my
skin where the vaseline had been applied. I was horrified. I told my
friend about it and showed him, saying "What if I have this all
over?" I put vaseline on the rest of my face and particles of black
and brown gunk started coming out. I was scared. The next day I
bought lavender baby oil to put on all over. The particles REALLY
started coming out. Some were hard and disc shaped, some were
cylindrical, some were soft and gooey. Then a few days into it I
actually had flies coming out of my eyes. I had lost an easy 20 lbs.
and went to the ER in Temple. I was observed and given respirdal for
parasitic hallucinations. I got no relief.
We live on a farm and had a new bottle of cattle Ivermectin on hand.
I dosed my self topically with the correct amount for my weight and
this has seemed to keep the bugs at bay. I don't think I'm rid of
them but the ivermectin has them down to what thy were. Ihad had a
horibble low metallic hum in my right ear for a couple of years.
Sometimes it wouyld make me want to throw up. I had a terribble
stabbing pain running from my left ear down into my neck towards my
heart. I was pretty sure I was goig to have a heart attack at times.
Since the Ivermectin, this has subsided.
I have given the basic outline of what I've been thru. Just like you
all, there's more to the story. I had resigned myself to dying and
in my mind I had died a few times during the course of this little
horror story. So far Ivermectin has given me some relief.
Sincerely, Cheryl

APPARENTLY, ONCE AGAIN, "big" red truck!!!! I can't believe you people
are that dense!?!?!? This article is about the pharamacutical cartel,
past, present and future, and how it continues to profit, starting
from the invention of street drugs to prescribed drugs!!!! The
pharmacutical companies will make big money off us "Morgies", and will
profit even further in the future as they invent one drug after
another claiming it to be our "cure"!!!! God Lord how do you people
get dressed everyday on your won!!! AGAIN, "Big" Red Truck!!!
Your right this is bullshit..... Sorry, I mean crap.... You have my
vote. I'll jump ahead and un-subscribe MYSELF today!!!!!
GOOD LUCK AND WATCH OUT FOR THAT "BIG" RED TRUCK, IT CAN AND WILL HIT YOU!

This is bullshit... Sorry, mean crap.... I vote to ban
cherriitree... My take... ZIP

The secret history of Big Pharma's role in creating and marketing
heroin, LSD, meth, Ecstasy and speed
Must read | Pharma | Toxic substances
NewsTarget.com
April 3 2007
by Mike Adams
Most consumers think that street drugs are in an entirely different
class than prescription drugs, and they believe that pharmaceutical
companies would never manufacture or sell street drugs. But guess
what? As you'll read here, drug companies actually invented many of
the street drugs now considered to be the most devastating, including
heroin and meth ("ice").
Here are seven facts you probably never knew about the connection
between street drugs and pharmaceutical companies:
1. Heroin was launched as a medicine by Felix Hoffman, an employee of
Bayer, only a few days after he invented aspirin. Bayer immediately
applied for a trademark on the term "heroin," then began marketing the
drug as a cure for morphine addiction. It was also marketed as cough
syrup for children.
2. Parke-Davis, a subsidiary of Pfizer, promoted and sold cocaine. It
even produced a "cocaine injection kit" complete with a syringe for
shooting up. Skeptical? You can view the picture yourself by clicking
www.NewsTarget.com/gallery/articles/ParkeDavisInjection.jpg
3. A subsidiary of Novartis, Sandoz Laboratories, introduced the world
to LSD in 1938, marketing it as a psychiatric drug named Delysid. This
same drug company also created saccharin, the artificial chemical
sweetener.
4. Drug giant Merck pioneered the commercial manufacture of morphine
from opium and was a heavy pusher and marketer of cocaine. Merck also
patented MDMA (Ecstasy, the rave drug). After World War II, Merck also
began producing pesticides and food preservatives.
5. Ritalin is "speed" for children. A chemical amphetamine, Ritalin is
made of controlled substances that would land you in prison if you
sold them to a kid on the street, yet the drug is currently prescribed
to millions of schoolchildren in the United States to treat a "brain
chemistry condition" that was invented by the drug companies.
6. In the 1930's, drug companies marketed amphetamines as
over-the-counter inhaler medicines for treating nasal congestion.
Tablet amphetamines were also widely available in tablet form and
frequently abused by students, truck drivers and other groups.
7. Meth was originally synthesized by chemists and later refined by
drug companies. During WWII, "meth" was actually prescribed to
soldiers by the U.S., Germany and Japan. Even Hitler was known as a
"meth head" by his own staff. By the end of the war, millions of
military personnel were addicted to the drug.
Today, meth ("crank") is made from ingredients found in
over-the-counter cold medicines. While a meth epidemic sweeps America,
destroying entire communities and even threatening some states (Hawaii
in particular), drug companies insist their cold medicines should
remain over the counter and not be classified as controlled
substances. There is currently no legislative effort whatsoever to ban
over-the-counter cold medicines containing the chemicals used to
create meth.
Also related: Coca-Cola really did contain cocaine during its first
few decades on the market (it also contained kola nut extract, hence
the name). Cocaine was later removed from the formula and replaced
with caffeine, a substance that is similarly addictive and serves much
the same purpose.
Once you realize the connection between street drugs and prescription
drugs, it's easy to figure out why Big Pharma is such a strong
supporter of the Partnership For A Drug-Free America -- because they
don't want consumers getting their drugs from street dealers, they
want people buying their drugs from drug companies! Drug companies'
attempts to outlaw street drugs are little more than a way of
eliminating the competition and monopolizing the drug market.
Ultimately, Big Pharma is just another drug pushing cartel that has
the same goals as any drug dealer: Convince customers they need your
drug, get them hooked on it, and eliminate the competition.
The only difference is that Big Pharma has been so successful at
dealing drugs that it has enough funds to buy off Congress, the Food
and Drug Administration and practically the entire psychiatric
industry (not to mention medical schools and mainstream media outlets).
Today, more than 40 percent of the U.S. population ingests
FDA-approved synthetic chemicals manufactured and marketed by drug
companies.
Drug companies think this number is too low. Their goal is to have 100
percent of the U.S. population taking not just one drug per day, but
multiple drugs every day, for life.

I believe that you do get a funny metallic taste in your mouth afetr
having a seizure. You had better get to the doctor as this does NOT
sound good!!!! I also hope that you DO NOT have the MSRA bacterial
infection as it seems the antibiotics you have been on are NOT
working ...... THIS CAN BE DEADLY!!!!! It is something that needs to
be taken care of immediately .... you should probably be
hospitalised. Have they tested you to see if you have the bacterial
infection throughout your bloodstream, blood cultures done?
You need to seek help right away!!!!!!
Wendy

Dana, you sound like you are very stressed, and I know you're feeling bad cause you lost your kitty recently and you're working long hours. That combination is going to make your symtoms worse. I am not familiar with the siezures you describe, but if it were me, I would visit a neurologist and let them run some tests. Try to do things you enjoy that will relax you. Maybe you should just take a "sick day" and rest/sleep. I do that sometimes and it is amazing how refreshed and stress free I feel when I go back out in the world. Take care of yourself dear - we care. All the best, Barbara

I think that I may have been having seizures, a few times now, but
last night particularly. I felt funny and went to bed, and I felt the
same way I did when I suspected I had been having them before, which
mostly is sleepy, foggy, disoriented, and strange in a way that can't
quite be described. So I usually end up in bed when this happens, but
it has happened before when I was not in bed, and all that really
happens is I hear a rushing sound that builds, and it is also a
sensation that builds with the sound but I could not easily describe
it. It is almost as if the sound builds pressure in my head. Then
I 'slip out' or blank for a minute and have the sensation of my
brain 'blinking' or reseting or rebooting like a computer, and the
next thing I am aware of is feeling like I am waking up, not knowing
what I was doing or how long I was 'asleep' so to speak, but it was
only seconds because rarely has anyone else noticed.
Last night I made a concerted effort to try to remember and describe
to myself what was happening, even as I was slipping in and out and I
do not remember it all, but I can describe some of it.
It was like hearing static, but also feeling it, and as the sensation
built the static increased in density and how fast the
individual 'popping' sounds within the static occurred also
increased. I felt the static in my head. I also tasted a thing like
biting on aluminum foil, and the taste felt like an electric shock,
and the taste was also like a buzzing or electric humming in my ears.
I know this is making no sense- but it is the best I can do.
And so as these senations built up, I felt like I was falling.
Falling asleep AND actually falling. I was not aware of much beyond
that, until I regained cnsciousness, except that I remember NOT being
able to move or call for help, and that my shoulder and hand may have
twitched. And my eyes would not focus. And very vaguely- there was a
strange electric shock feeling running down my arm, down the back of
my throat, and under my tongue. And I had a VERY difficult time
waking up this morning and sore muscles in my back on the side that
the arm felt like it might have been twitching.
I really think these are seizures. I have read about such things, but
not ever a description of what it might feel like. I think they are
related to the sleep paralysis dreams that I have described before,
for those that may remember.
I really don't now what to do to pursue this medically, because I
have had an EEG before (long ago) and nothing showed up then. But I
think that these kinds of seizures do not often happen in response to
the light used for inducing grand mal seizures- and so that would be
inconclusive. I suppose it doesn't matter because I would probably
not take the anticonvulsive drugs anyway at this point, but it is
really freaking me out and I would just like to know if that is what
this is or not.
Does that sound like a seizure?
Has anyone here had one and can tell me what it feels like?
Is this related to morg?
Is this the beginning of neuro involvement?
I have been having a relapse lately and it's getting me down again.
It started with the abcessed tooth, and then antibiotics for three
weeks, and sores and cutaneous abcesses reappeared. The antibiotics
helped, but I keep having to go back for more when I run out because
the infection causing the lesions just comes back, and these are
producing pus, unlike most of my previous sores that I had attributed
purely to morgellons. I think I must have gotten secondary infection-
or else it has hit a new level of symptoms that I had not yet reached.
Thanks for listening guys- and if you know anything about the seizure
type things- please let me know.
Dana

Very kind of you to pass that along! Many happy thoughts coming at you.....
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Many call themselves christians, few exhibit christian values. Its a very sad sign of our times. All the best, Barbara
Wendy e Tripp <WETRIPP@...

The REALLY SCAREY issue here is that there are so many "Christians"
in the higher posts within this presidential administaration. Thier
thinking and logic condemming others always amazes me, That's
being "Chrit-like" and preaches
peace/tolerance/harmony/compassion?????? I don't think so!!!!
wendy

I DO NOT APPRECIATE PROSELYTIZING on a web board designed for help with a
disease. I am COMPLETELY in agreement with the call to remove this post.
Just a note.......I wonder if the author had been born and raised in EGYPT if
she would be telling all Christians and Jews that they were going to burn in
hell unless they converted to Islam!!! I cannot believe that in the 21st
century there are still individuals who cling so tightly to something which is
based entirely on supposition and superstition! Spiritual faith is great, but
unfortunately the people who claim to be the most devout - IN ANY ORGANIZED
RELIGION - are the MOST NARROW MINDED, MOST JUDGEMENTAL, MOST CONDESCENDING,
LEAST TOLERANT and LEAST CHRIST LIKE!!!! I belong to the Freedom
From Religion Foundation. Every month they print , "Fan", letters and emails
from self-proclaimed " DEVOUT CHRISTIANS". They say very kind and Christ-like
things such as, "You and all your members are FAGS, and God HATES
fags".........or, "I sincerely pray that every person who is dear to you catches
a horrific disease and dies a slow, painful death before burning in hell for all
éternity"..........and my FAVORITE, because it meshes SO WELL with the
principals this country was founded on, "If you aren't Christian, then you
don't belong in this country and should all go back to your own!".
RIGHT.........our Founding Fathers DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT RELIGION TO BE A
PRIVATE DECISION FREE FROM OUTSIDE PERSECUTION.
Anyway, I say PLEASE REMOVE the Biblical Reférences, as I find them to be very
offensive to my intelligence.
Thank you.
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Many ARE having success with alkalinizing diets. I do my best,
really, but have lapsed several times in my diet. I always have a
return of symptoms within days.
My husband and I became symptomatic nearly simultaneously.
We were both working to remediate a mould building six weeks previous.
I am including in this only the unexplainable 'morg' symptoms like
fibers and granules, because I had other symptoms well before that
time.
My son shows very mild intermittent symptoms. He will get one sore
that has the white 'beans' in it and under the surrounding skin. He
has ADD and sometimes fatigue, dark circles under eyes, and much
tooth decay for his age, despite my forced protocol for dental
hygiene. He had granules emerging from intact skin in his bath about
six months after my husband and I did. He is relatively healthy
overall, however.
You are VERY mistaken in thinking that this pathogen limits itself to
the cutaneous tissues. Fibers have been noted in sputum from the
lungs, for one. Also, I KNOW that it creates channels deep within the
muscles and fatty tissues. I can feel them. It seems like lymphatic
congestion to me. I have been able to 'move' these pockets of
pressure that feel like fluids through the tissues by using massage,
to get them to drain, and felt the relief in one place as the
pressure moved to another area, and the pressure intensify in another.
It is more subtle than lymphadema like elaphantiasis, but it shares
many attributes.
I do have cats, but I did not have them when I became symptomatic.
I have always visited the ocean but do not live near any large bodies
of water, in central texas. Produce is a large part of the economy in
central texas, but I did not live very near any. I lived in a larger
city, in austin.
Dana

Sterile abcess? I have this bleeding or clear fluid as well, that seems
as if a pocket was opened up, in fact, I can feel the little 'bubbles'
of it in the skin around my lips/cheeks, if I palpate the skin with a
finger inside the cheek and outside, with the skin between them. I have
also noted that when the pockets drain, the bubbles will flatten.
Sometimes, lately I think because of the heat and sweating at work,
they have become infected with something other than morg- something
that DOES cause an immune response and they drain pus and are inflamed.
The only difference between the two is that the other infection causes
pus and an immune response, the other pockets just drain blood or clear
fluids, and do not have hot inflamed tissues surrounding them.

You should go to the dentist. They will be gloved, gowned and goggled for your pertection as well as theirs. If they aren't run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am from the Mpls area and and feel the health care is the best in the country - use it. You need to try to keep your teeth, and hopefully they can help. In the mean time use Arm and Hammer toothpaste, then gargle twice with Listernine, then wipe down your gums with paper towels. Discussing Morgellons with anyone in the health care profession is probably a waste of time. All the best and welcome to our group, Barbara

In response:
Again, keep an open-mind. The little beasts wins when they pit us against each other! Its not rocket science, don't you understand this!?!? If we are so busy being resentful, angry or against the ones who are in the same corner, they win!!! This keeps us DE-focused! Its like the analogy of the "crab- pot", were all trying to climb up and on and over each other to the top of the pot for escape, forgetting all us crab are in the same pot together, so to speak!!!
I too have been suffering. You people DON"T EVEN KNOW! and I've tried every remedy you've tried and more under the sun KILL them, to no-avail! !! I 'am one of many, WHO DOES suffer minute-by-minute without much relief EVER! I've been researching "Morgellons" for approx. 2 and one-half years, going on three in Dec., so I'm no rookie. I do have the facts and nothing less! WHAT GOOD IS GUN UNLESS IT'S LOADED?????
I refuse to give up until the ones responsible for our nightmare ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST US! So with that said, know that with or without the ones that refuse to look outside the box, I will continue to investigate every avenue I'm lead down and I will continue to offer up any information that is true and related and will expose "Morgellons" for WHAT IT IS!
patram81 <patram81@...

Sorry if I seemed to be insulting. I just stated my opinion and made
a polite request. I read the beginning of your post, but you seemed
to be wandering off target, so I did not finish.
It seemed as though things posted were being stated as fact and not
opinion, and I was concerned that new people to Morgellons might get
off on the wrong track, thinking that we all agreed with those
statements. My main gist was to alert them that there can be
multiple opinions on a shared observation.
I tend to respond to ideas and not people, so I have no recollection
of a personal thing occurring between us. I am sorry that you are
upset. My only wish is that people think, and be impartial and
broadminded in the exchange of ideas, and to not accept anything that
cannot be proven as factual.
I do not think this subject is worth expending emotion over.

-My dentist will kill me if i survive and make it to an appointment.
Or he may fall over dead when he looks in my mouth. I have had a
full life of dental repairs until all my kids decided to graduate,
get married and move and buy homes all in the past few years. Mom
went to the bottom of the list, so kids could launch. I prayed to
God to preserve my teeth til i could have them saved. Now, 5 years
later, the one i was supposed to have pulled 5 years ago is missing
its crown, but holding on. The two beside it are cracked, on the
other side, where i chew, more cracks, a tender root canal. On top
of this mess, the end of 12 facial lesions,fizzed to death by soda
sessions.... the matrix limp, the remaining beans hiding in their
holes from my final tweeze. Let me add to the picture, my old
clothes with holes in them from washing them in my homemade borax
and washing soda laundry soap, with silver thrown in the rinse...to
fight this fiber-
fight.
Does this sound like anyone who can give you sound
advise?
-I didnt know i had facial lesions til i uncovered them
with organic aloe. The aloe caused my pores to pucker, and white
stuff came out. IN many days of aloe facials, the goo covering was
diluted and i could see the lesions. Removing the lesions with
baking soda has caused swelling and bumps in my gums and mouth to
go away, or maybe be siphoned out the facial lesion using baking
soda.
About a year ago i read about fluoride and how it interfers with
enzymes that re-enamelize the teeth. Im hauling home 5 gal, 30lb
jugs of low fluoride water. I need to call the utilities and see if
they will re-inburse me as our water is high in fluoride. See me
SMILE . Ok, maybe i have holes in my clothes, face, teeth and head
too!
I came upon the site by the chemist jerard judd(i will
find it if you want), and i followed some of his reccomendations. It
took me a week to work up the nerve to brush my teeth with ivory
soap.....but i like it. I didnt know teeth could re-enamelize, i
wanted to find out. I found some ascorbic vit c powder at whole foods
(their own 360 brand jar $10) and used that for vitimin c. I like
his reccomendation of 1/2 teaspoon vit c powder plus 1/2 teaspoon-
baking soda in a glass of water. Stir and watch FIZZ. He says its a
thousand times more assorbable, i like the taste. I added the
battery opperated walgreens 2 bristles rotating toothbrush ($10),so
all the holes and empty fillings could get cleaned. AH, i didnt know
that when my kids grew up i was going to "let myself go" with such
mystery and rebellion. But i like the feeling of the smoothness of
re-enamelized sharp edges on broken teeth and hopeing that removing
the lesions off my face will contribute to a successful dental
repair.
My other blessing has been to find out about silver. I buy
Sovereign Silver at whole foods or vitimin shoppe(2 oz, about $12).
At first i was scared of it so used some on a q-tip to rub the gums.
The results were so promising that i now hold about 5 droppers of it
in my mouth about 5 minutes before sleep, swishing and swallowing
it. Of course iv also tried falling asleep before i swallow it, and
that results in jerking up and spitting it all over the pillow. So,
my advise, dont fall asleep swishing
silver.
I have learned alot more abou