Re: Re SILVER and washing machine gaskets
2007-10-31 22:04:43I have always left the door open and the little draw where you add
your detergent open to prevent mold.
I have always left the door open and the little draw where you add
your detergent open to prevent mold.
--- I don't have advice, but you must be doing the right things if you
have no lesions.
My hair too has been changing. Much hair growth on my head is
morgellon hairs. I also now have to shave my face due to morgellon
hair growth. But the real kicker is my eye lashes. Morgellons hair has
replaced many of my eyelashes. They are growing every which way and
are so long that I have to trim them. Is this crazy or what? Anyway
hopefully someone will be able to advice you about the itchiness
shirley
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I have something that stays in that region and moves from left to
right or vice versa. It gives me the creeps. I get a rigid neck and
seems to affect my brachial plexus.(both of my arms). I am losing
strength and dexterity. Interesting enough in 97 , I had neck surgery
and have plates and screws in my neck. The pain is sometimes extreme
and the fatigue is overwhelming the many nights of insomnia. I am
taking Septra and have no lesions, however, I have hair gone
WILD.Septra has sulfur in it , by the way. I don't feel crawling
anywhere else except on occassion around my female genitals. OMG. i am
swollen half the time, as well. Any suggestions or comments, welcome.
Seriously, after this is all over, I'm going to study homeopathy
herbalism and become a Nautropath, as a PA or RNP. I'm my own first
patient. I'd love to help people really find health, which is more than
treating disease. If I can do it for me, then I can do it for others
too. I hope I can do it for me.
Dana
OMG!!!!! I JUST WATCHED THE OPRAH SHOW AND THERE WAS A FEATURE FROM
THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL ABOUT THE WONDERS OF THE PLANET EARTH. ONE OF
THE SEGMENTS WAS ABOUT AN ANT WHO HAD A PARASITIC INFECTION AND FELT
CRAZY AND SICK. THE FUNGAL SPORES DRILLED THEIR WAY INTO HIS BODY AND
GREW IN THERE AND ONE OF THE FUNGAL SPORES CAME OUT OF HIS HEAD ON THE
CAMERA. IT LOOKED LIKE THOSE FIBRES YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU
MUST SEE THIS ON THE OPRAH WEBSITE. COULD THIS BE THE CLUE TO OUR
PROBLEMS!!!!!! IT HAS TO BE. THE ANTS THEN CARRY AWAY THIS SICK GUY
FROM THEIR COLONY SO HE DOESN'T INFECT THE OTHERS AND LET HIM DIE. WE
HAVE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE GUY WHO WROTE THIS PART. HUW CORDEY.
I'M TRYING TO FIND HIS E-MAIL........
Zip ...... see how websites "look" official and can perhaps sell you
the Brooklyn Bridge??????? Size may matter, but doing research and
gathering information before one takes any medication or herbs is a
MUST!!!!
Wendy
https://jacoblab.com/OrderExcelsaOral.html
There's the link. This is the best lead I have. I think IV would be
best, but lacking a cooperative doc, oral and topical...
Keep fingers crossed, I'm going to try it.
Dana
Sulfur, yes... It's the same thing as the MSM supplements I'm taking.
It has caused about ten lesions to just open and literally push out
their contents. Three of those have healed. I also keep lotrimin on
them, tea tree oil in my peppermint soap everyday, and take grapefruit
seed extract at night. Very slowly, I think I've been getting better.
It can be hard to say. Sometimes it looks like worse but it's really a
herx. I FEEL better. The scary thing, is that I think this stuff all
has to come out. I don't know that it will go away any other way, and a
lot of them are deep and large, under intact, unblemished skin. My
skin has been worse, but I think it abcesses as this stuff dies.
Emotionally, I hope I can stick it through. I have been at this point
before, with the baking soda and stuff and when it gets too hard, too
many sores and too much pain, I let it heal again. I need Resolve. I
think I have found something that appears to be working. I'm sticking
with it. I'm going to try DMSO, too, soon as I track some down, because
the sulur tablets have worked well.
Dana
--I wish i could have gotten this machine but it is over $1000. When
i watched the demo at lowes....i thought well the laundry wont know
if its the machine pouring the silver ions on it or me. So i started
adding the kind i make to the rinse cycle. Alot of new washing
machines have a special cycle now to clean the washing machine with
bleach once a month. This is due to the studies that show a build up
of bacteria in the nooks and crannies of the washers. My new washer
is the only one in town that would fit under a counter, so
Frididaire front loader. I checked the inverted window on the door,
and the gasket with my portable search light(bright)after several
first loads of wash.....and they were covered in hairs. I shined the
light into the tub and spun the tub and a shower of hairs and fibers
rained down. This washer decides how much water to use, and also has
a 2nd rinse button option. Still...the hairs and fibers were left
behind. I think this is just insane! Especially since we are dealing
with getting rid of fibers from our environment. I tried some
different methods to deal with the puddles in the gasket and hair
and fibers. What worked best is to mop up the water in the folds of
the gasket before taking out the wash. Then run a clothing sticky
tape roller around the gasket to pick up the left over fibers. Then
take out the clothes and leave the washer door open so it can air
out. Then before the next load, yeah can you believe this, the
easiest and fastest way to start without left over hairs is to
vacuum the rubber gasket. This is rediculous! Unless of course, it
has always been this way with front load washers and i just didnt
know it? My last washer had a grey gasket so i could not see the
hair left behind....well, i didnt have the portable search light
either.-I looked at the rubber brushes in automotive for lint, and
thought da....maybe the rubber gasket in the washer is supposed to
attract all the hair....thats why this washer doesnt come with a
filter, or as they told me(you dont need one in this new machine.
What? Dont forget williamthegreats recent post of salfry experiement
with latex gloves...he said the embedded stuff in his hand came thru
the latex for oxygen. Isnt latex rubber
Anyone using sulfur pills? I've noticed a remarkable diference since
taking them plus using polysporin for the lesions. The ones on my
butt;however have put down roots and seem to have moved in for good.Am
seriously considering making an opening into center of nest and
rubbing lotion with some cayeen added onto it. That should alert the
little buggers, and the neighbors aound here if I do that.
shirley
-Ive had the silvergen for about a year and a half and it is very
reliable, and the company very responsible. I put some in my washing
machine rinse cycle, let it sit a bit. I put some in paint for the
bathroom ceiling, cleaned the aviary with it, sprayed the carpets,
clean the bathroom....and use it for skin for myself and pets.
Rather amazing to learn about all this. I prefer the brand Sovereign
Silver for internal use, it is respected in the silver-list.org
forum and has a big website(vitimin shoppe and whole foods, $12 for
2 oz size). I found a silver technology hairbrush at walgreens($10),
it is silver embedded plastic. Ive read about silver embedded door
nobs and toilet seats which kill sars...if i remember corectly.-- In
Always dead in my opinion.
Any NEW info or experiences with this product? I wrote off all the
Silver products when they first started being pushed on the web as a
cure all. I've read some recent things however, that may change my
mind. Is it a dead topic or does it still hold some promise?????
Many using incorrect English and misspelling do so to elicit
sympathy while they play their games. We are much less likely to
pounce on a foreign born gameplayer than we are one who is
home-grown.
Rita
I have been taking this supplement for several days now, and noticed
that it does, to quote maureen, 'exacerbate things.' I find it
promising, however, because it is causing the sores to literally push
out their contents. Before, it would just sit there, seal over, and
trying to remove the contents was painful and nigh impossible, except
to dissolve it with baking soda, which is hard to do, also. With the
MSM, the sores bulge and the contents emerge easily, wipe away with a
wash cloth. It hasn't been long enough to say whether or not it will
heal, but it is looking promising.
Dana
we''ll be making big bucks from now on. Jeee....i don't know about you folks, but I'm going to get myself a BMW ( its okay to drive other appealing car but its just not as thrilling as driving BMW)
No seriously, What was Michael thinking?
ritainthelibrary <ritainthelibrary@...
I and all the other fresh doctors here will run right down, apply, cure
ourselves and live happily ever after.
Rita
It is essential that a person is aware of what constitutes good food
health vitamin intake. The federal drug administration produces a
recommended daily allowance for the majority of vitamins which it
regards as a good food health vitamin intake. These figures vary
according to a person's age, sex and some other factors so that the
good food health vitamin intake for a young woman is going to be
different to that of a man in his seventies.
The food health vitamin intake amounts of certain foods are included
in the nutritional labelling. This labelling is important for a
person to consider and helps ensure that they are receiving the
correct food health vitamin intake from the foods that they eat. The
nutritional information is often represented as a percentage of the
recommended daily allowance of each vitamin and mineral and can help
assess the value of the foods in the quest for good food health
vitamin intake.
There are also a number of items that a person may want to restrict
in their diet as part of their good food health vitamin intake.
Again, the nutritional labelling of certain foods can help a person
to see how high a product is in these undesirable contents. Salt and
fat, for example, may be items that a person wants to consider
limiting as part of their good food health vitamin intake even though
they are not strictly vitamins. The majority of people actually refer
to nutrients when they use the word vitamin and food manufacturers
are aware that a person is looking at minerals and other items when
they are considering their good food health vitamin intake. Fiber is
another element that many people are more aware of as forming an
essential part of a balanced diet and is necessary for good food
health vitamin intake....
http://vitaminucxj.blogspot.com/
Hi Karen, look at this site and tell us if the jellyfish looks like
any of the pictures on the site? Ever Hopeful's Delusions of
Parasites(she is being sarcastic to make a point with all the
pictures she has taken, dont miss the video of the one moving when
wet)....www.dpref.com/index.html Your story was scary just
to read about, thank God you found a quick solution and have such a
Hello Karon Schwab here just wondering if anyone besides me ever seen
a small welt type cell,bacteria or ???? which appeared to be just
under the skin enough to be seen by the naked eye what appeare to
resemble a small jellyfish the mop looking kind??? I feel totally
alone on this one !!!!! This was my very first morgellon sign!!!! I
kid you not!!! It also appeared to be swimming and i had my friends
observed this crazy creature !!!! We would call them mophead
jellyfish!!! My first one was on my stomach and it swam across my
stomach!!! and i could actually feel it with my fingers!!! it felt
like a welt and it moved and u could honestly feel the mophead and let
me tell u i was totally freaked out!!!!!! the size was about as big as
a quarter!!! then about 24 hours later one begun to welt up and grow
as long and as wide as my stomach!!! and at the same time on my arm as
long as my arm i immediatly called my dear friend to meet me at a
halfway point to witness and validate what i was seeing or if i was a
nut!!!! unfortunately i was not a nut my friend did see exactly what i
was seeing i panic panic panic afraid to go seek medical help due to
my husband thinking i was a nut case or on drugs he refused to even
look at it and help validate this creature i asked my friend to get a
hotel room while i feverishly ran down to 24 hour wal-mart and bought
every bug and slug products i could possibly get as this mophead grew
bigger and bigger heat seemed to be radiating off my stomach and arm i
must have looked like a total nut case !!!! got to hotel took my
clothes off never being naked in front of my friend i did not care!!!
I first applied a kit that was for lice remover the shampoo head to
toe my friend trying to calm me down i was frantic!!! get it off !!get
it off!! i screamed over and over then i would jump in hot shower to
no avail then try cold water to no avail then my friend suggest
takeing the second bottle that came in the lice kit and applying to
the mopheads cause the second bottle was like an acid that of course
you are not to apply to your skin i didnt care and by then my friend
was getting frantic to which only breed more fear unto me !!!However
as we applied the acid stuff and messaged it in layers of stringy
mophead stuff started to peel off go get more go get more franticly
pounding on the counter every drop i could get !!! my friend went and
got all they had and trust me i used every bit of it!!!! hours had
pass we did it !!! as i sat on the edge of the bed soaking wet and my
dear friend drenched in sweat we looked at one another and hugged and
sobbed like babies !!! Never had a reoccurance and dont wanna !! i
showered every day using that acid for months in fear it would come
back Attack of the mopheads ...... The end Karon Schwab can anyone
relate ??????
http://www.dermatechrx.com/Scabies/
Hello, I came accross this website the other day. They seem to sell
products for Scabies but they market their products towards
Morgellons as well.
Their prices seem very high which leads me to believe that it is
another scam preying on desperate people. Most likely alot of their
products could be substituted w/ store bought inexpensive items.
There is "some" interesting reading on the site though.
I am on IV Rocephin for 13 days now. Let me tell you ... IV is a
pain in the butt! I am trying to low carb as well. I have been
unsuccessful at eliminating caffiene yet. The only difference I
feel so far is some joint pain relief. Crawling and biting
sensations are still there. Mostly on my face, scalp, nose and
ears. Rashes/excema appear just about anywhere.
I'll post an update after 1 month with the Rocephine to advise if it
has any benefit.
Regards,
I continue my ceiling and wall hunt for the helicopter bug. The
weather got warm and i got about 7 of them live the other night. Didnt
see any last night. I find them above the lamp by the front door, and
on the outside front porch window glass by the front door. They all
are of the same design. My daughter sent me a bug she has found in her
apt a couple of hours from where i live. Under the microscope...it is
the same design. Whatever this is, whether it is related to morgellons
or not...its in the trash.Yeah!
Well????????? What's the nematode's identification?????? Why haven't
you told us in this post?
wendy
http://www.ecoquestintl.com/customers/product_guide/water/LaundryPure/L
aundryPure_home.asp
I've posted some new photos by Safrey who is on another site. He has a
positive ID on the Nematode that came out of his hand and a clear
picture of a black speck that came out of his skin. He used a Digital
computer microscope 200X that is shown also. These are cheap and are
made by Digital Blue and Smithsonian computer Microscope. $89 in the
toy section. Easy to use, they plug directly into the computer. We're
getting alot of good pictures now, maybe we can start putting the
pieces of this puzzle together. WTG
If the tube blacklight shows you that the fibers in the article "how
to find mystery chemtrail fibers by sue miller", are in your home dont
panic. They can be reduced by vacuuming and sticky tape. I dont know
where they come from, but they are definitely fun to play with as the
article suggests, because they have movement from static electricity i
guess. We may or may not ever know what these are...but the goal is
to remove the stuff, at least as much as posible, and that in itself
should lesson the static electric in the home. I dont know enough
about static, but i felt that not using dryer fabric sheets stopped
the clothes from being covered in more fibers. Now, my family is upset
that their clothes have static on them from the laundry so i put a 2
foot sheet of aluminun foil in the dryer and that helps. I have a new
front load washer and when i open the door of it to get out the
laundry i see fibers standing straight out horizontally stuck to the
plastic bowl like door panel. Whats up with that!? I was looking at a
website once where folks were especially prone to shocks, and they
discussed that natural fibers like cotton helped more than man made
clothes.Now, i see hairbrushes that are in the stores to reduce
static. I dont know how that works....anyone else know?
The lotrimin HAS really cleared up sinuses. I also take guaifenessin
everyday. You can buy the extended release version, mucinex, or just
the immediate release like robitussin. Some people have had bad
reactions to it, but I have had only one serious bronchial infection
since I sarted taking it a year ago, and prior to that, it was more
like every two to three months that I would get one. For me it has
helped. I started taking it because I read about a protocol for
treating fibromyalgia syndrome with it, and at the time, I had enough
of the tender points and hard muscles, tender skin, to suggest I was
headed that way. I don't have those problems much at all anymore. It
worked for me, for some of the problems. It doesn't stop the itching
or lesions, but it did help for the FMS type symptoms and keeps me
from getting bronchial infections, as far as I can tell. It took a
couple of months to see a big difference. If you want to look into
the info I read about it, go to
www.guiasupport.com
Dana
Do you have a tube blacklight?(walmart bout $10) When i used it to
look at my face in the mirror, i could see orange in the pores, and
blue fibers on my face...laying on the surface, sometimes standing
upright going into a pore. Be brave, this is not fun. But it sure
helps for a reality check, and to show where to vacuum and tape to
reduce the contamination. Here is the article i started with. I dont
know where the fibers come from.....but these folks on a forum back
in 2002 decided they were falling from chemtrails. I dont know, but
the article describes the fibers i found. Here is the
article....................................
-How To See Mystery
Chemtrail Aerosol Filaments
By Sue Miller
aka 'Looookinup'
smillernc@...
8-2-3
The unusual phenomena being described here -- and at various
Chemtrail/Aerosol Activity Boards -- is being called by different
names. 'Aerosol polymer filaments and webs' (Mike Castle @Rense).
Chemtrail fibers; microfilaments; 'sky-webs''; chemtrail fall-out;
electrostatic filaments; CT particulates; perhaps
even 'Morgellon's'. "I like the term 'fibrils' as it implies a
synthesized microfiber with conductive properties." (Moondog @
Carnicom).
But whatever they end up being called (personally, I lean
towards 'CT-UV fibrils' -- has a nice ring), they are REAL and
OBSERVABLE.
See for yourself -- it's simple...
These CHEMTRAIL/AEROSOL/ UV/ FIBRIL/ FILAMENTS are very easy to
observe under the right conditions.
To actually WITNESS these filaments covering you, and your children,
your pets, your home, your plates, your pillow and your possessions
can be very shocking.
They are all over us.
They are floating in the air.
They are entwined in all that extra 'dust' you have been wiping up
lately throughout your home...and the 'dust' on your car.
They are clogging your A/C and furnace filters.
They are landing on your food between the plate and your mouth.
We are all wearing them, eating them, drinking them, breathing
them...
And they are virtually INVISIBLE -- EXCEPT under ultraviolet light.
i remember someone saying that a doctor saw.....with a black light. i
have one now so can someone remind me as to what i should be seeing?
was it patches of glowing purple or ....everything looks purple
Ketoconazole is the only med cream that seems to stop my face and nose
areas from itching. Don't know why it's itchy or what's causing it
other than Morgellons. Like Lotromin, Keto is an antifungal. Sorry,
as far as I can tell, it sold only by prescription but it does the job
where, for me, Lotromin doesn't ... Zip
-Hi shirley, i am using miracle foot aloe cream to melt the covering.
I dont know if it is the aloe in it, but, the cream works great to
soften the covering. It is at walmart or walgreens in the foot section
and $10. I put the cream on in a pile and leave it for about 10
minutes...you could just "sit on it". I had a lesion on my back that
has itched for years but would not open up. In the foot section at
walmart i found a new tool, battery operated callus remover...small
spinning rough nob. I "nicked" the callus on my back (my daughter
actually cause i cant reach it). I used to starting some garden seeds
that way. The nick created an opening so the cream could get in and do
its job. After about 10 minutes the covering can be lifted off with
angled tweezers or tissue, then pat some baking soda on the lesion and
in a minute or so remove what it dissolves. Keep re-applying the soda.
Depending on how long this has been there, or how deep, this can be
repeted everyday until the lesion is drained and disolved. I found
that at certain points of draining the lesion will bleed out, and
sometimes a gradual bleeding for up to an hour, the blood looking
bright pinkish red. It seems to be an important part of draining the
lesion so dont try to stop it, but keep applying soda and removing it
when saturated so the blood wont spill over on the non affected skin.
As the lesion heals, the opening widens, the depth raises, the white
beans rooted in vertical collums loosen and dissolve. It feels
great...it takes time. It is worth it to get them out. I wish i knew a
faster way to totally remove them! Has anyone tried the led light
therapy hand held light advertised on tv for pain. That would be great
if something like that could cause these embedded "beans" to loosen
and pop out. I read that a persons report on morgellons-disease-
research pulled these white things out and counted them. The lesion
was the size of a nickle, and it took 3 months and the count was 495!
Maybe others lesions are different inside....i have not heard any
other reports of that detail, so let us know what you find. -- In
I've got several lesions that are deep rooted and growing and painful.
But the top layers of skin covering the lesion is impossible to
remove. How do I clean out the nest? These lesions are on my butt and
makes sitting a rather dificult experience. I do soak in a mix of
witches brew nightly.
shirley
I have been using a search light to find these tiny webs in my home as
mentioned on williamthegreat.com. I have found so many its sickening.
They are so small and hard to see i am glad i bought the search light.
Now the weather has gone from snow to unusually warm, and today i have
found a new 2 inch web on my cleaned diningroom ceiling. Under the
microscope i see small flat woven grey fibers, with black fibers and
specks thru out.Next to it on the ceiling was a black speck which
under the scope looks like a live tiny helicoptor bug. If you look and
Great to hear of your progress and thanks for sharing that info with
us (me). Love to hear more about it when you can and think shielding
the good doc is a good idea... Zip
hi i am new on here, was member, but email messed up, so joined again
because i like it that much. i am finally getting treatment with iv
antibiotics feel alot better. been nine days. brain fog gone, joint
pain gone, skin symptoms 95 percent gone. i cannot give to many details
in here, because i have real good doctor, and have to protect the good
docs from hecklers non-believers in disease and the hostile docs who
think morgellons disease is not real. there is a good message board i
belong to it is http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-
Message-Board/ . has much info there that has kept me more funtional
and gave me relief during the time i had to wait until could see the
knowledgable doctor i am now. otherwise i would be covered in lesions,
have probably disentegrating teeth and be half crippled by now.
sometimes board is dwon due to updates, it is a simple machines forum
very well laid out. hecklers not allowed in there its a place to find
resouces for relief and other useful stuff. people are not allowed to
seel stuff in there, no promote "snake oil". i have been ill since
Tony
I've never been able to eat breakfast, not ever... weak stomach. I
almost never eat fruit, since Morgellons, because fruit is high
fructose, another form of sugar.
For lunch I just had a 93% lean hamburger, no bun, fat free cottage
cheese, a slice of tomato (tomato is high carb), a tablespoon
of "Sandwich Toppers" chopped hot peppers with salt and pepper. Oh
Yeh, and a caffeine free diet Pepsi. I may have to cut out the tomato
slice.
I'm trying to do low carb without making myself want to jump off a
cliff.
What do you all eat when you're trying to do low carb? I never saw
anyone try to go easy on the kidneys. What do you eat that is easy on
the liver and kidneys and why is that particular food easy on the
liver and kidneys? I may try it.
Rita
Oh yeah, I may be repeating myself here, but the one time I
accidentally bought a generic that contained tolnafrate instead of
clotrimazole, It made the sores huge and ooze and really hurt, also
spreading them under the skin and to new locations. Like Zip was kind
of saying, you have to check the ingredients every time, they change
the formulas for these things sometimes.
Impressive list. Manny thanks... Who do you thing would be the most
receptive to the idea of helping us???
I have the same thing, the tender spots at wrists below thumb-joint,
inner elbows, behind knees, etc, and they also turn blue when that
happens, like bruised. I finally listened a few months ago about the
lotrimin, and found that it isn't a fast fix, but after a few days,
the blue lessens. I even strated putting it in my nostrils when
things are really bad. It works pretty well, but some nasuea as a
side effect if any of it gets into post nasal drip and swallowed. It
isn't toxic to swallow, but a bit bothersome. I checked to be sure,
and nausea is just a 'normal' side effect, the same as if using
mycelex troches, and swallowing. It has really cleared out the eye
area by introducing it into the nostrils with a q-tip. I think every
little bit helps, even if it's a minor skirmish compared to the rest
of the battle. My head is less foggy and vision clearer too, but I
don't know for sure if it's related to the area being less active if
it's due to something else I have done.
Rita what do you usually have for breakfast? well see..I've been relying on apple for so long (breakfast and snack ), until i found out that an apple contains about 15- 17 g carb and banana is just as bad.
Oh i remember those days, when mom used to say fiber is good for you and your heart and we would tell her that its more pain eating fiber than having heart attack. Things change and so does your perspective on life.
ritainthelibrary <ritainthelibrary@...
I've found that buying a soft cover book at the local pharmacy has
helped me in determining what food is high carb. Some of it shocked me.
The only thing I've been able to find, that I'm not allergic to, is
(ugh) meat.
I'd like to set a max of 30 grams of carbs a day but I haven't been
able to do it.
Rita
I put another black and white photo of Pete's Helicopterbug in the
Photo section. You can now see the beak in the front of the head. This
insect is flat, thin and very small. This is the adult. WTG--- In
I went to finding1cure and checked the new photos by pete. I put
pete's photo in my photos here (Helicopterbug). Pete's photo matched
my drawing of the Helicopterbug. This is what's bugging pete and me.
Maybe you too. WTG
I guess Lotrimin isn't for everyone. For some reason i just didn't get any fast result from taking Lotrimin, i use ACV around the eyes, sure it burns for first few sec..but it's worth it.
Anybody else have dark circle or pain around the eyes, beside us three??
zip22045 <zip22045@...
I agree and have also have had good results with Lotrimin containing
Clotrimazole. Lotrimin's other product, "Lotrimin Ultra" doesn't
contains Clotrimazole and doesn't seem to work... Clotrimazole cream
equivalent to the branded Lotrimin is also available at Walmarts for
~1/3 of the CVS Lotrimin price.
Ketoconazole cream, which is available as a generic with a
prescription, works as well or better than Lotrimin. Don't think
it's comes over the counter though. However, Ketoconazole is a
broader spectrum antifungal and has a longer efficacy. Both seem to
work well around the eyes. Zip
I agree and have also have had good results with Lotrimin containing
Clotrimazole. Lotrimin's other product, "Lotrimin Ultra" doesn't
contains Clotrimazole and doesn't seem to work... Clotrimazole cream
equivalent to the branded Lotrimin is also available at Walmarts for
~1/3 of the CVS Lotrimin price.
Ketoconazole cream, which is available as a generic with a
prescription, works as well or better than Lotrimin. Don't think
it's comes over the counter though. However, Ketoconazole is a
broader spectrum antifungal and has a longer efficacy. Both seem to
work well around the eyes. Zip
I've found that buying a soft cover book at the local pharmacy has
helped me in determining what food is high carb. Some of it shocked me.
The only thing I've been able to find, that I'm not allergic to, is
(ugh) meat.
I'd like to set a max of 30 grams of carbs a day but I haven't been
able to do it.
Rita
Avoiding carbs like the plague. Sometimes, one aspirin, or an
antihistamine at night will help the bloating by the next day. Garlic
will help swelling, always makes me pee like ten pounds away...
I am doing ACV and cranberry juice (unsweetened from the health food
store) too. Both seem to help some.
I sent this to a Morgellons member as an email and thought I should send it to everyone.
Rita
rita borgeson <ritainthelibrary@...
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:59:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: rita borgeson <ritainthelibrary@...
Subject: Re: Lotrimin
Lotrimin, or it's generic, clotrimazole, is an antifungal, said to "cure most athlete's foot".
When I eat high carb, or any carb, these days, the area around my eyes starts to hurt. If I let it go, the entire eye area gets black and blue. It, truly, looks like 2 blacks eyes. Various points on my body... the front of my arm pits, the front of my inner elbow, the part of my wrists below the thumb start to hurt. When that happens it gets hard to breathe. I put Lotrimin on all those points everywhere I can. The pain goes and the breathing gets better.
I've considered putting Lotrimin all over my body. It's an antifungal. I believe Morgellons is at least partly antifungal, possibly morphed from yeast.
Rita
Well, one thing we do know, by not giving the names of her drugs she
is obviously not willing to help those who cannot afford her
wonderous presence, and she is also ensuring that those of us
desperate souls who have bucks will be sure to enhance her bank
account.
This brings to mind that kindly doctor who wrote a book with similar
claims. The book was extraordinarily expensive and someone shared
that it listed the drugs that people are already taking and posting
about on various forums.
Of course, if they are veterinary drugs, medical doctors do not
prescribe them, and since the newest upgrades of vermicides are
frequently introduced to veterinary practice first, I am curious to
hear a response to this, as well.
I read and online interview/article with Nurse Ginger Savely. I can
find the link if anyone wants to read it. Nurse Savely stated that
she has an 80% cure rate for treating people w/ Morgellons symptoms.
She then states she treats the disease with ABX, Anti-Fungal and Anti-
Parasitic drugs. Using a shotgun treatment program. Does anyone know
someone who has gone to her for treatment? 80% cure rate, sounds too
good to be true!
Does anyone know what combo/cocktail of drugs she is using??
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/livechats/2006/05/morgellons_dise
ase_chat.html
one of my biggest bothersome problems is bloating! does anyone else
have this? what do you do? the only thing that helps me is drinking
some apple cider vinegar every morning but i stopped cuz obviously it
tastes like hell to wake up to and yeah the bloating came back.. so
what choice do i have?
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this posted by someone on morgellons-disease-research
http://www.homelandsecurity.org/newjournal/Interviews/displayInterview2
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Re: you actually see bugs in your cup? or fibres?!!!!!
Most assuredly! I just call them kickers but it is the little
creatures with the pointy tail that wiggles like crazy. As for
fibers, you can see jillions in the eye cup. After the nutrasilver,
it tends to stain them brown so they are especially easy to see--with
the loupe 10x or 20x.
Great thought. Can you accept emails too and do you think it might
also help to info copies to Pres and the heads of congress... Zip
I have been putting one drop of undiluted NutraSilver into my eyes 3x
a day with positive results. (My case of Morgellons is worst in my
eyes and on my face and neck.)
I open the bottom lid and carefully drop one drop there, then close
the eye for about 30 seconds. It will ALL be absorbed within a couple
minutes or less.
You should then wash your eyes very well with a saline solution (1/2
cup distilled water wIth 1/2 teaspoon salt).
If you have a good clear plastic eye cup, and if you clean
agressively (I "slap" the wash into my eye), then you can actually
see kicking buggers in the cup. They will be floating on the top,
often in a bubble. You'll see lots of crud in the bottom, but pull
the loupe back until you see the surface. It's shocking at first,
but as we all know, we tend to grow accustomed to these horrors.
The best eyecup, by the way, comes from Medicine Shoppe Pharmacy in
their eyewash. If you have access to a Medicine Shoppe, get it
because it is so far superior to every other eyecup. Also, you can
easily see into it with your loupe.
I've used NutraSilver drops in my saline solution for months and it
helped. I just decided to give this undiluted drop method a try and
I've had very significant improvement in my eyes. After 3 weeks, I've
had no ill effects or discomfort from the undiluted NultraSilver.
That's not to say that in four weeks I may have a problem--the
decisions are for each of us to weigh and make.
In case you are interested, for saline, I use a 20 oz sports top
water bottle filled with distilled water and about 1 teaspoon of
table salt shaken in and melted.
Morgella in Texas
The only labs I have had that came back abnormally were low serum
potassium, and the elevated ANA's and IgE's. Even with those tests,
they still can't tell me what exactly it means as far as disease
processes. Something has made me incredibly susceptible to yeast/fungal
infections, but that is another symptom that doesn't mean much, could
be due to a number of chronic illnesses or autoimmune diseases. I
really think I may not have the full blown morg. I don't have 'BUGS.' I
have fibers, and peel long white structures out of my skin, but I think
these are fungal. The granules, which have nearly disappeared since the
abx, I think were probably a mycobacteria, but possibly a fungal
mycoplasma. I do feel itching and 'movement' under my skin, but it's
really quite minor compared to other accounts, and I think that for me
it is due to the fungal infection. I may just have an underlying
autoimmune disease and particular susceptibility to the fungal
infection that seems to also accompany morg. Another possibility is
sulfur, I have heard several people say it drives the parasites out of
the body, and unknowingly, I have been taking it in my guaifenessin
tablets, everyday now for almost a year. Maybe we just got rid of that
part, accidentally. I noticed that sulfur substances DID seem to help,
like bactrim, for me.
I wonder if there is any veracity to that claim.
Other than the tests above and the constantly swollen glands, I haven't
had any signs of immune dysfunction like low wbc counts. I might have
been having attacks of pancreatitis. Two members of another group
suggested that the symptoms of breathlessness, pressure under ribs left
side, and pounding pulse felt there, are an apt description of their
confirmed pancreatitis. I have no idea how I would have developed that.
I looked it up. My experience is that when Rita says something may
help, I should pay attention, because she's generally on the mark. The
antioxidant complexes are recommended by a few people I've spoken to
who have been asymptomatic for awhile. It seems worthy of trying, at
the least. Another supplement some are trying in another group and is
also some kind of antioxidant, is Superoxide Dismutase, or SOD, a brand
name: Glisodin. I haven't tried it yet, either, but it may be worth
looking into as well. I know I really started getting better this last
time when I tripled my Vitamin C and multimineral complex, and added
extra potassium/magnesium/selenium/zinc. I was a little skeptical
becuase all of the mainstram medical texts say that too much of these
can be just as damaging as not enough, but finally I gave it a try, and
they are wrong, at least as it applies to us. So antioxidants may be
the way to go to boost the immune system and get it back on top of
things.
What does Morgellons do to our bodies?
Does it destroy our immune systems? After having Lyme and a really good
LLMD, I know immune system tests are easily available. The problem is
that we don't know if Morgellons is causing the problem or if whatever
causes Morgellons is causing the immune dysfunction, if it exists.
Rita
I've been using it for yeast and, though I still have yeast, I wonder
if it has helped the Morgellons.
I did a search on it and, in my investigation and attempt to get a very
low price, I came across a minor discussion of Morgellons. I tried to
forward the discussion without success.
I wonder if it has helped me. Thoughts?
Rita
Whats's meat???? I meant to say "real" meat!!!!! Being so damn poor I
usualy only get the mechanically seperated ground turkey, chicken
that's probably riddled with arsnic, and sometimes the cow-lips
hotdogs!!!! (I work at a food bank once a month and I also get to get
some free stuff!!!!) I am soooooooo healthy!!! hahahahaha
wendy
Has anyone tried eating lean meat only? It's low carb but very boring.
I think, if long term it may help. Problem is it's not a balanced diet.
When I eat long carb the Morgellons gets better.
Rita
Didn't you know that "real scientist" can't spell... Too much else
to think about... Zip
Dana
You remember correctly. If we're talking about the same thing, that
happened to me when I was in, now retired, Dr Burrascano's office and
he said it was yeast. Getting rid of yeast is extremely difficult,
especially if you don't have a cooperative MD.
Rita
This is really dismaying to hear. Are you sure this is a reputable source? (not to offend, but it is imperative to ask) My first thought, the night I found out about morg, was that it was related to genetic changes caused by these agrobacteria. I would rank that as the most fearsome of all possibilities, becuase it is irrevocably altered. There is no fixing it. We would have already contaminated all food sources. Treating the body would be completely inneffective, without treating the soil, the produce, the water.... etc etc...
What do you think?
Dana
Wendy e Tripp <WETRIPP@...
I e-mailed Dr. Vitaly Citovsky the other night and received a reply the
next day. I thought it pretty cool that he replied! I told him about
the use of fenbendazole that is helping many people with Morgellons. I
have to laugh ... a real scientist ... (check his spelling!) I did this
after watching the video concerning the Agrobacterium found in the
biopsises of Morgellons patients.
His reply, 2/27/07 :
thank you for the info. indeed the funding is totally lacking, hence
the inability t perform serious research. i will look int this drug and
try to see wheher it is effective against agrobacterium that we often
find i the patients' biopsies
--
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Professor
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State University of New York
Stony Brook, NY 11794-5215
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(:
Agrobacterium
I think I vaguely remember someone asking you about clicking or popping
sensations and sounds coming from the throat, and you relating it to
yeast? Am I remembering this right, or totally pulling it out of the
air? I woke up with this happening to me a few days last week, as if
bubbles were popping in my throat. It subsided after I swallowed a few
times or else drank some water with acv. Just wondering if you knew
anything about it.
Dana
The strong vibrating effect of the water against the skin will really
help to break that stuff up. We used to have a similar one, but lost it
in our last move. It did really feel good to break up the knots of that
stuff in the muscles . pay particular attention to the back of the neck
(well, front too, if you can stand it) and underarms. You wouldn't
realize how much is there until it's gone, at least I didn't.
I came home with a new hand held shower from target called oxygenics.
It has turned our low water pressure into a high pressure shower.
Emotionally it feels like im blasting all fibers off my skin. The bad
part of this is that i dont want to get out til the hot water is
gone...so, although this is supposed to save on water, in my case it
doesnt. I wish i could hose down the inside of the house with it!
I e-mailed Dr. Vitaly Citovsky the other night and received a reply the
next day. I thought it pretty cool that he replied! I told him about
the use of fenbendazole that is helping many people with Morgellons. I
have to laugh ... a real scientist ... (check his spelling!) I did this
after watching the video concerning the Agrobacterium found in the
biopsises of Morgellons patients.
His reply, 2/27/07 :
thank you for the info. indeed the funding is totally lacking, hence
the inability t perform serious research. i will look int this drug and
try to see wheher it is effective against agrobacterium that we often
find i the patients' biopsies
--
Dr. Vitaly Citovsky
Professor
Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology
State University of New York
Stony Brook, NY 11794-5215
Tel.: 631.632.9534
Fax: 631.632.8575
E-mail: vitaly.citovsky@...
(:
Agrobacterium
Yeah, my thoughts as well. I was thinking of telling him so. And
asking him how I should work with my doctors when they think I must
be nuts. But I wanted to pass it on anyway, just so all know the
responses I keep getting.
Dana
While looking for reliable information on what turned out to be snake
oil, ('stabilized oxygen drops') I found a great site, and a chemist
willing to share the science or lack thereof in various psuedo-medical
treatments. I would reccommend checking this site before buying
anything sketchy, it was valuable to me.
http://www.chem1.com/CQ/
It seems to focus on water-related snake oil, but there is an option to
e-mail the author. Only, check the FAQ page first, because my questions
were mostly already addressed. I did e-mail to ask about the best way
to replace potassium (so many have said they were low, including
myself) as it can be risky to supplement. Will let you know if I get
any response.
Dana
I don't know what anyone else thinks, but he sounds like a perfect politician to
me......he managed to answer your letter, but really said nothing at
all..........typical.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
This in my e-mail today:
Dear Ms. Pohlmann:
Thank you for contacting me about Morgellon's Disease and for sharing
your concern that an unknown cutaneous infectious disease might be
affecting populations in several states. I have inquired with the
Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS or Texas Department
of Health) and the United States Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention (CDC) regarding this issue.
The DSHS and CDC inform me that they have received multiple inquiries
regarding this public health issue and are currently collaborating
with one or more major medical centers to define and study this
condition. They further stated that historically communicable
diseases have been addressed by multi-state collaborative research
efforts involving university-affiliated medical centers.
The CDC recommend that patients "work with their physicians to seek
diagnostic testing using well-defined and reliable tests to explore
the stipulated association with Lyme disease...[and] the submission
of specimens collected in a physician office, hospital, or other
recognized clinical setting, and stored under proper conditions, to
either state health departments or CDC laboratories for testing."
I appreciate having the opportunity to represent Texans in the United
States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.
Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator
-Have you tried spraying silver on it?-- In
Personally, I don't think you could possible get any further off
topic for this group. How many other non-political, self help groups
have you sent your political addenda too? Know it probably covered
by free speech but, it sure is a waste of bandwith... Zip
I think someone may have hit on something. We have been living in an apt that has black mold inside the walls. It creeps from the baseboards up the wall mostly during the winter months when we have to have the heat on. I bleach and clean but it keeps coming back. We can't afford to move so we are stuck with this stuff. My husband already had this before moving into this apt but it did seem to get much worse.
Forgive me, Dearest group. I know this is seriously OFF TOPIC but I believe this is truly happening, the American public doesn't know about it and it has dire consequences for everyone in our group and for all Americans. For more info, please Google "North American Union". Please pass this far and wide. Thank you. Rita
dave_lovelace <dave_lovelace@...
Oh good grief! That's a damning article if ever I read one. Note the
not-so-subtle innuendo toward internet psychosomatics. They are
basically saying we're all nuts and in danger from physicians who
support our hypochondria by diagnosing and treating us. I don't know
where to START to answer this article... They have already removed
any credibility any responses might hold by talking about internet
support groups feeding this 'problem' by promoting letter-writing
campaigns among group members. This needs to be well-thought and
carefully written. I'm going to have to take some time with it.
Likely, I'll have one of you guys read it before I send it.
Dana
Ok,David Whelan so what's your point?
After writing such an irresponsible letter (which I an surprised that
Forbes would publish) What is the solution?
Stating that the Dr.'s and the labs are not on the up and up... what
about the people that are terribly ill with Lyme?
There are people that are terribly ill with Lyme you know.
I live in Utah and the Dr.'s say we don't get lyme here...
We have deer everywhere and they carry ticks. Oh, they also say we
don't get parasites as well. Say what?
If people choose to bury their heads in the sand then what?
We have import export in this country and we have missionaries coming
and going out of the country all the time here in Utah and what do
they come back with? You figure it out.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch people are suffering with all kinds of
illness Dr.'s are ignoring and denying hence here we sit... sick
without treatment and who are the responsible parties?
Well, it doesn't help with articles like yours. One sided article.
How about doing a real article about the ones who suffer from this
disease?
And if it is such a puzzle about getting a solid test done and helping
people get well...Don't you think that should tell you something? It
should tell you there is a lot of work to be done to shape our country
up and wake our country up to the fact that Lyme disease is real and
it doesn't help with your trashy articles. Why don't you try to do
something to help instead of hinder?
If you or a loved one was inflicted with Lyme... my best guess is this
article never would have been printed much less written.
Do the right thing and do your homework and write a real article on
Lyme disease. Let's see you get into a solution!
That is my challenge to you.
Good luck!
More info, FYI
"Kay L." <b10g7@...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:23:42 -0500
From: "Kay L." <b10g7@...
Subject: CALL TO ACTION 2007 #2 (Feb. 25)
This is the best medical write up I've seen. "Diary of a parasite
sufferer". WTG
http://members.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0312/096.html
I hope everyone here sends a letter to Forbes complaining about that
article. Lyme patients and Morgellons patients have a lot in common, in
particular, the fact that mainstream medical is treating us all like
crap. This author has taken the position that mainstream medical is
correct and he implies Lyme, and by inference Morgellons, doctors and
patients are crazy/bad/stupid etc. Please write to Forbes.
www.lymenet.org flash discussion has a sample letter in support.
Thanks guys.
Rita
My on again/off again boyfriend, who I believe fits the, "Carrier", concept for
this disease perfectly, (He never gets any lesions, and his skin looks totally
normal to me with the exception being the fibers I find everywhere inside his
workshirts and bedding....but he is also a life-long weight lifter,
pro-waterskiier and health food devotee, where as I have tendencies toward
Anorexia from my 14 years of Ballet so I'm SURE his immune system is a HELL of a
lot stronger than mine), is a Director of Facilities for a multi-national chain
with 500 stores. For those of you not familiar with that position, it means
that if ANYTHING breaks, malfunctions, leaks, etc., within one of the stores,
his team of 45 employees has to get people out to that location to evaluate and
then fix the problem.......and that means anything from the nightly janitorial
service, to the equipment within the location, ie., air conditioners, and
anything related to the actual structure as well. He has done a BUTTLOAD of
Mold Remediation. Now, Dana, I know that you and your husband are very
knowledgable about this subject, so let me preface my comments by saying that
much of the ideas about Mold and their effect on humans, is up in the air and
the subject of much controvery. It is VERY similar to Lyme Disease and
Morgellons. Anyway, my BF and I have spoken many times about this subject,
because I have my real estate license and have been remodeling houses since I
was 19. Occassionally, I would see a good deal on a home, but be nervous about
some mold issues. What he has told me for almost five years now, is that the
current prevailing thought is that Mold Remediation started out as a legitimate
service, but a panic went through the media, and instilled fear in the public
because of general ignorance. (HMM. Seems like I was just writing something
similar about public ignorance and emotion based reactions). In any case, the
public was soon scrambling to get remediation done on ANY type of mildew or mold
found in a living space, and it was an instant deal killer on the sale of a
home. Sellers who DID find mold, no matter what kind it was, were having to
spend TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars to clean the property. We Realtors even had
Mold Disclosures in our official documents for Real Estate transactions in
Oregon, although we do not anymore. There were entire companies set up just to
INSPECT for mold, and we are talking about REALLY EXPENSIVE services. Needless
to say, that industry soon became more of a racket than anything, as often will
happen when you get panic surrounding people's health.
My point is, there is only ONE kind of mold, out of many species, that was EVER
proven to have long term health effects, and that one species is only seen in
very regimented conditions. My BF told me that out of every 50 mold issues he
gets, only one on average, ends up being dangerous. Don't misunderstand
me........there is obviously a GREAT DEAL that is still unknown about fungi,
molds and mildew. There is still a lot of debate. We know there is a fungal
component to this disease, but I wonder if it is in ANY way related to mold in
our homes, because I have lived for the last 15 years in only two
houses......one which I built, and now one which is only ten years old, and very
solid. No water problems that I know of.
Dana, your thoughts? Correct me if you feel I misstated anything. Also, I may
be repeating an opinion, and would love to hear how you and your husband feel if
it differs from what he has dealt with.
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http://cbs2.com:80/video/?id=34515
-I live in an older house. When i found out about the fibers
revealed with the blacklight("how to find mystery chemtrail
filiments by sue miller"), I started vacuuming them up. Under a
microscope they look like they contain many fibers inside a tube.
They brake jagged, they look like there are designs in them but cant
tell what. Stopping dryer fabric sheets helped reduce the larger ones
(an inch and half). Checking products that came into the home as a
source of these fibers helped(son bought a new duvet cover that was
covered in these fibers).
I did not find the fibers mentioned in the article outside, but i
have seen many trails in our skys, i have seen sky sparklies fall,
and caught one on a piece of packageing tape, and under the
microscope it was a tiny bug with a white tuft of fibers on its
end...this may be natures way? One day i saw in the light of the sun
setting, my yard filled with 20 to 30 foot clear filliments or web
strands, laying randomly this way and that, layered on the grass. I
had no idea what this was, and tried to rake it, but the sun went
down and it was then
invisible. When
i read williamthegreat.com site, i copied the design of the
helicoptor bug, and now have found that a bug of that design is the
kind seen in my home, and several of my friends , new to us say in
the past 5 years. Everyone was thinking it was a gnat, and we all
notice it in warm weather, a tiny black bug that swarms above lamps,
ends up dead at the base of them.
ON williamthegreat.com there are pictures of webs, and i have found
those in my home, the larger ones seem to contain the tiny black
bug. I did not know that the webs can be so tiny you cant see them.
I have worn myself out finding them everywhere using a portable
searchlight. They grow like moss across the ceiling and walls. They
have red, blue, clear, black fibers in them. They have black specks
in them. They have larve that look like a black speck. The webs are
many tiny fibers randomly stuck together, and connected at times by
a small extending single fiber. I have gone over every ceiling and
wall to remove all this hidden webbing. I dont know if the bug makes
the web, but i found several dead bugs in this webbing. I notice
that the webs are more on the hot water pipes in the basement, and
on electrical cords. They are more by air ways(like above the door
or windows, or heat duct. I FIND THEM OUTSIDE, around windows,
against the front porch ceiling. Yesterday there was a wind storm.
As i passed by my bedroom, i noticed the big chair my dog sleeps in,
vacuumed and washed recently....the sun light revealed a web strand
from the top back reaching across the seat in mid air to the
opposite front arm of the chair. The window was blown open slightly.
Under the microscope it just looks like a clear fiber with a couple
small black fibers.
I dont know if all this contributed to me having layers of fibers on
my face, with lessions underneath, but im removing this with baking
soda, and vacuuming up all webs and doing a nightly search of
ceilings and walls. When the weather warms up i will remove the webs
on outside of house. I cant do much about spiders that fall from the
air, or long web strands that drop into the yard, but, at least now
i know all that goes on and can at least be on the alert. I
like using the large paint roller size sticky tape for the bed
sheets...its quick and easy and not noisy like the vacuum cleaner. I
am first using clear tape, each day, to remove any new specks, sand,
fibers from the sheets. I find a collection daily. I look at it
under the microscope. I dont know if this "lint" is normal or not.
The specks are very artful fiberballs. I find the fiberballs on the
pajamas, and the color is that which the pajamas are woven of. Then
there are seperate specks that are single fibers. The sand looks
like a tiny rock, some are mixed colors, some are redish. I dont
know how to interpet this, maybe normal. So far i have not seen
anything move, or any bugs.
There was a time when i remember thinking, the house seems so much
dustier than usual. I remember my husband asking....what are all
these hairs. We have animals, and its shedding season, so i would
just vacuum more. Now, i wonder. Under the microscope i see that the
dust has the black, red, blue, clear fibers laying in it. The
mirrors are harder to clean, my glasses are always needing to be
cleaned, the tv screen. Its good to know someone was thinking about
it when they invented the new micro fiber cleaning clothes. Wipes it
up with one swipe!
If there is a big picture to my experiences and yours, there will be
some "common threads" across the country, not just in symptoms, but
also in evidence found in the homes or environment. It is
interesting that we dont know why there are so many airplane trails
in the sky sometimes(we had a checkerboard sky at christmas). We can
watch the video about the silentsuperbug...but theres no picture of
a bug. Gee, im really excited to see the movie...maybe there will be
some clues in it for us to ponder? In the mean time, get a microscope
(digital blue QX5 $89)that puts the findings on the puter, and look
with a blacklight at your skin and report(do we all have glowing
skin pores or just me and smiley? )Do a web search...four years ago
i vacuumed my folks house head to toe because there were so
many "new" webs in the house. That was unusual...now, i find them in
mine! Also look at this site...pray for these folks, that
they find the cause, and that no one has to let this go on any
longer. This is just crazy, bizarre, rediculous, insane. We need a
fiber police force. http://jjimenez.home.mindspring.com
i'm just curious to know if any of you feel that your immediate living
conditions are possible cause to your condition? do you live in new
homes or apts or old ones etc. i live in a first floor apt that is
cold and leaky from the other apts over me and may have a lot of hidden
mold. i'm also close to the garbage room which gets a good spraying
for bugs once a month. i feel the mould and spray certainly maybe part
of the problem if not all because i never had any of these sypmtoms
before moving into here seven years ago....... comments. all of a
sudden i feel that the electric heating in here also may cause an
ionizing effect on the air which may aggravate this condition. my cat
seems to know exactly when i have crawling sensations-when i pet him i
give off a spark every time and he runs away and shakes himself. when
i'm not crawling, no sparks and he stays.........
They also have a website where you can read the magazine for free.
Rita
The woman who publishes Public Health A(can't remember this word) MAY,
at my invitation, make an offer of PHA for postage only. I like it
because it sometimes touches on things no one else is talking about,
such as BENZENE in soda. Malic acid, etc & benzoate chemical reaction
turns to benzene.
Rita
very very very very interesting ..... did I say VERY??????
wendy
You know, I had saved an ad from a magazine about that "new"
medication, LYRICA. This medication is supposed to be prescribed
for "NERVE PAIN". sStabbing feet pain, "UNCOMFORTABLE "tingling",
burning or shooting pain. Someone on here or another site mentioned
that thier doctor had placed them on this and thier "creepy crawly"
sensations disappeared????? http://www.lycria.com
maybe they developed this just to "disguise" our "PROBLEM"??????
wendy
Sweetheart, I'm inclined to think the movie and the inept cdc are just coincidence. Its not worth turning gray over. All the best, Barbara
danacantstop <danacantstop@...
Panic is rising in me as I may be connecting things prematurely here,
but the coincidence of my last two posts suggests something to me.
1. the CDC is fully aware of the cause of morg, and will continue to do
nothing, even suggestions it may be intentional, at the least that it
may be untreatable.
2. THEY, whosoever that may be, are preparing the public, and even
encouraging panic, with the 'BUG' movie
Is THIS how they plan to deal with morg? To create panic and fear? I am
having horrid visions of quarantine and disposal camps. Somebody tell
me this isn't happening and I'm giving into paranoia, so I can stop.
What do you guys think?
So thats good to know. Can you go out in public or is your breath not tooo bad? All the best, Barbara
danacantstop <danacantstop@...
Actually, I have been chewing up whole cloves of garlic twice daily
for the last few days, and the improvement is extraordinary! I can
handle it, i'm a toughie, and think nature has better knowledge than
a pill, most of the time.
That is F*@*ing WILD!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can only hope that the folks at the
CDC get invited to the PREMIERE and get front row seats!!!!!! Fill
those seats with "itching powder" and watch them squirm!!!!!!
wendy
Panic is rising in me as I may be connecting things prematurely here,
but the coincidence of my last two posts suggests something to me.
1. the CDC is fully aware of the cause of morg, and will continue to do
nothing, even suggestions it may be intentional, at the least that it
may be untreatable.
2. THEY, whosoever that may be, are preparing the public, and even
encouraging panic, with the 'BUG' movie
Is THIS how they plan to deal with morg? To create panic and fear? I am
having horrid visions of quarantine and disposal camps. Somebody tell
me this isn't happening and I'm giving into paranoia, so I can stop.
What do you guys think?
If you aren't a member of lymebusters there is an incredible thread
breaking right now, I'll post some of the content, this sounds
pretty scary yet somehow promising ... Some quotes to peak you
interesting before you read. The HPV Vaccine it says is dangerous,
is something up here?
"and emergence of the random recombant stealth viruses results as
actual insects emergin from the skin from the insect dna in vaccines"
"demylination of nerves causeing "the feeling of crawling"... metal
sheathing of nerve fibers to create highly metalic nerve sheaths... "
The Actual Podcast
http://media.putfile.com/Alex-Jones-Dr-Deagle-Vaccination-Interview
Okay, now the details posted by a member of lymebusters
=====================================
It's a podcast on Rense.com with Dr.Deagel
Dr Deagel on alex jone's show talking about HPV manditory live virus
injections.. and "unstable dna" acting on INSECT LARVAE DNA in human
bodies...listen now, bigtime connection between stealth viruses and
morgellons .
I copied this post from finding1cure, where it was copied from
lymebusters...
(We had been discussing the HPV vaccine, and the links between
cancers and other non-pathogenic conditions to actual pathogens.
Someone just happenned to post this in response. It scares the
bejeesus out of me.)
I dont know if he's DIRECTLY adressing the term "morgellons" or not..
but its all about everythign surrounding the cause of this.
i will post more about heavy metals.. demyelination of nerve
sheaths.. plaque.. the MS connection... and stealth vaccines ...
also .. INSECT LARVA DNA in VACCINES... acting as unstable dna ..
waiting for RETRO viruses to recombine with .. acting in a
completely rabdom manner.. creating brainfog... fatigue...
demylination of nerves causeing "the feeling of crawling"... metal
sheathing of nerve fibers to create highly metalic nerve sheaths...
this causing inhibition of seratonin receptors.. causing
depression.. ADHD.. and emergence of the random recombant stealth
viruses' results as actual insects emergin from the skin from the
insect dna in vaccines.
This is the first step in mass culling of the population through
fear and quarantine/elimination... to reduce the worlds populace to
5-10% of its current size. I'll supply links... need time to compend
this all.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/bug/large.html
Watch this trailer. I promise the hair on your neck will stand on end.
I've had the 'poppy seeds' and 'blue jean lint,' those are pretty
accurate descriptions. I have not had a physician with me in this
fight, (no insurance) but when I read about FMS, I used the chart
depicting the tender points to self diagnose. I didn't have all of
them at once, but enough of them, and all of them at different times,
to convinvce me I was headed that way. I had antinuclear antibodies
in my bloodwork the three times I was tested for it, so I know
something in the auto-immune family is going on.
I started daily guia about a year ago, maybe a little more and
today I don't have that kind of pain anymore. My muscles feel soft,
where they used to feel lumpy and like made of marble. It doesn't
work for everyone, but it worked for me, with the added benefit of
seriously decreasing the frequency and severity of the sinus and
respiratory infections I was having. Some docs are saying this is
ineffective, but for me it was a Godsend. I'm still on it.
It won't cure morg, but it has really helped me to live with it,
combined with other courses of self-treatment. Good Luck to you.
In case you'd like to read about it go to guaisupport.com and
another good site to reference is marshallprotocol.com
I hate to tell you you're lucky, since you sound as though you're suffering
horribly! With that said, however, how fortunate that your County Health
Official actually took the time to LOOK and LISTEN. Is this a CHANGE that will
show KNOWLEDGE is getting out about our disease? I'm hearing and reading more
and more stories similar to yours, and it does make me hopeful that at the very
least, your Official had HEARD of Randy Wymore!!
As far as your thought about the public's perception of this disease, it is
totally valid. But you are using something that most people DON'T use when it
comes to a subject in which there is a strong emotional response present, that
being FEAR in this instance, and also extreme ignorance. Perfect example for
you: I used, and thousands of others have used as well, a similar argument when
trying to explain that HOMOSEXUALITY is NOT a lifestyle choice. WHY, Pray tell,
would people choose a lifestyle where they would be denied HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT,
and all the benefits of marriage because of who they love? Why would they
CHOOSE to become the objects of RIDICULE, DISGUST and one in which they face the
constant threat of being BEATEN or KILLED by some ignorant ASS? Guess what?
Normal citizens do NOT use RATIONAL THOUGHT when it comes to a subject which
illicits FEAR. I think it was great and valid question you asked, it just
hasn't worked for gays and it won't help us. We need to continue to look to the
establishment for validation before we can educate the general public.
Let us know how it goes with the fibers. I wish you the best of luck, and hope
you ease your pain in the meantime.
Nicole
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Being candid sometimes means being a little gross... but yes I have
noticed two smells I don't usually have.
One is ammonia-like, sometimes when I wash my hair or sweat a lot it
is so strong that it burns my eyes and nose as if I were cleaning
with it in an unventilated room. Yeast produces ammonia. If I sweat
on a shirt and it doesn't get washed immediately, it is redolent of
an odour like cat pee after a few days and I have to throw it out.
And another, though I haven't smelled this in awhile, I used to
constantly. It is such a strange scent I have trouble describing it,
and thought it couldn't possibly be from me, but as I would get a
whiff of it throughout the day in several different locations, I
finally realized it had to be coming fr