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Sandy...was that Mike Stobbe you talked to? I interviewed with him
last week. Sure seems nice, I just pray he will do a good job on this.
Shalom Pat

=( Once again let down, I went researching last night
found some interesting stuff and I realized I didnt have any open
lesions, okay well im lucky one. I wake up today theres now a open
sore on my nose, oozing.These things are like reading my mind for ways
to torture me! I guess my immune system had a way of fighting it, I
used no products or anything!.Only today I guess it gave up. Woke up
super-tired and felt retarded(er).I have two lesions now! I knew I
should have went to the doctor and get antibiotics before I got
lesions! But I was afraid and I still regretably will not go! IM only
15 and besides my mother would think and im including my doctor. IM
stuck in a world of torture.
It all started in 2003. I broke out with tons of little dots all over
me,everywhere! it became red and dark red itching like nothing ever
before. Went to the docter they looked in wonder and finnally just
gave up and said it was Dermititis.They gave me some medicane(dont
remember)
2 weeks later it was gone comepletetly. 2006 Arrives Boom outbreak but
without all the outbreaks(all happend at once as if normal)Just the
dots and with those dang fibers. They are infested in me!,I can rub my
hands togethor and watch them cluster(might be dirt ^^). You know what
I had a Rockstar Energy Drink yesterday!. It had 200% Vitaman B and
other vitamins. I think that may be the cause.I also drink alot of
pop, 24 pack of pepsi in 3 days!.,Mabey the acid killed them from the
pop? heh. So whats next? Stay alive and be known as the
stupid,lazy,bum that cant do anything? I mean can anyone give me
something that can slow these bastards down thats homemade of in a
household! Pour Hot sauce on the dots? Just give me some ideas please!
(easy ones please I cant let my mom know)

nate,my blood type is o positive. the primetime special on wed. is on ABC AT 10:00. it is called medical mysteries. I hope they devote more than 5 minutes to it since that's about all they did on all the other programs that talked about morgellons. by the way, I interviewed with the guy from the associated press today. anybody else talked to him yet? he seems to be on the up and up and was interested in what I had to say. Sandy.
nate richardson <nakassist@...

that's it exactaly... brain fog.. dementia... delusions of tv stations... floating in my head.... ha ha.....

friends till the end...

yours truly..

nak....

hey by the way... [INLINE]
i have been wondering if this"thing" effects people according to their blood type. I am trying to find out my own. What is yours?

anybody.... out there... what is your blood type...? lets see if there is a correlation,.of causes and effect per type .A,B,AB,O,ETC......

NATE

that's it exactaly... brain fog.. dementia... delusions of tv stations... floating in my head.... ha ha.....

friends till the end...

yours truly..

nak....

hey by the way... [INLINE]
i have been wondering if this"thing" effects people according to their blood type. I am trying to find out my own. What is yours?

anybody.... out there... what is your blood type...? lets see if there is a correlation,.of causes and effect per type .A,B,AB,O,ETC......

NATE

how do i contact u? my email is cherriitree@...

duh... nbc .abc... just watch it.... wednesday...

My first symptom was intense itching on my forearms and face. Over a
few weeks the itching was from head to toe and felt like ants
stinging. This horror continued through 6 doctors and 2 years, then a
neurologist prescribed Zoloft, saying, "we do not know why this works
but it "short circuits" the central nervous systom into not
recognizing this as pain." It did help, but the dose had to be so high
that I was a zombie. During this time the lesions started, fatigue and
joint pain. Now I take Effexor (150mg once daily) and it does help
with the itching until I flare and then I feel it, however, I am sure
that the itch and stinging would be much worse without Effexor.
I am convinced that I have untreated Lyme disease and will be tested
next week.
Blessings, Pat

Nate.... Dateline is on NBC. Pat

Can anyone describe how the symptoms preset initally? Thanks.

The whole show is related to morgellons.... duh.....

one aired last friday morning... the other ABC"DATELINE." AIRS THIS WEDNESDAY AT 10 PM...

ONE LOVE...

The more I research this the more convinced I am that I have untreated
Lyme. Of morgellons patients who have been tested, 94% are positive
for Lyme. Canada seems to have a better handle on this than does the
US. The following site is very good.
http://www.canlyme.com/
Blessings, Pat

Treating Morgellons and dieting, for me, is the same thing. I've been doing fairly well and decided to reward myself with treat... Bad idea. Now I have a red inner elbow and am treating it with Lotrimin. I haven't had a red inner elbow in a while. Back to spinach.

On another note. The people you deal with on these boards are a cross section of the American public. Some know what they're talking about. Some don't. Because someone on a list says you should take something for your Morgellons doesn't necessarily mean you should do it. On some lists I've seen some who would do harm for the fun of it. I'm fairly certain we don't have any of those. On some lists there are some who would promote their products for the almighty dollar. Those come and go here. And there are those who would have you use what works for them. I'm one of those. In all cases, be very careful. You are the only one who will be harmed if your body can't tolerate, for instance, Vitamin C or some of the products that come in the Vitamin C pill. Every body is different. Read labels, go slowly and know what you're taking.

Rita

wonderful advice.

k

Science & Health
Itching for Answers to a Mystery Condition
Fed up with doctors calling them delusional, a group suffering from
nightmarish symptoms has pressured the CDC to look into their disease
By PAIGE BOWERS/ATLANTA
SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHORBackground: The Year in
Medicine
Posted Friday, Jul. 28, 2006
Dr. Gregory Smith wants people to know it's not all in his head.
According to the Gainesville, Ga., pediatrician, white fibers have
been burrowing into his skin for the past two years, making him feel
like he's under constant bombardment from insects or cactus needles.
Shine a black light on these fibers and they'll fluoresce blue, he
says, just like something you'd see in The Twilight Zone. He
describes looking into the mirror one night, only to see one burrow
down into his eye.
"Yes ma'am, I was a little bit distraught," recalls Smith, 58, who
says he can no longer work because his mysterious ailment has also
robbed him of his memory and neurological function. "I tried to grab
a hold of it with tweezers and it would not come out. It was quite
painful, so I threw up my hands and went to the Emergency Room with
my wife."
For Smith, and some 4,000 people across the nation who claim to
suffer from similar symptoms, it's the reaching out that has been
problematic. The disease, called Morgellons after a reference in a
1674 medical paper, isn't officially recognized by the medical
community. Some have suggested that it is a hoax, even a viral
marketing campaign for a sci-fi movie. But sufferers say it's real
and that there have been a growing number of cases across the nation
of people with these painful fibers, skin lesions, crippling fatigue
and memory loss. No one knows what causes Morgellons and no one knows
how to cure it.
But Smith and his fellow sufferers are itching for answers. That's
why they've pressured the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to
assemble a team of scientists who will determine whether this disease
is in fact for real. The 13-member team is expected to share their
findings within the next two months. "We're not ready to concede
there's a new disease," says CDC spokesman Dan Rutz. "But the volume
of concern has stepped up because a lot of people are writing or
calling their congressmen about it because they're frustrated that
there's been no organized way to deal with their suffering."
But even with CDC involvement, Morgellons sufferers like Smith are
still frustrated that they haven't been asked for their input. Smith,
for his part, says he has offered to ship his own properly prepared
Morgellons specimens to the CDC for review, but claims the
agency "blew it off." And the South Carolina-based Morgellons
Research Foundation volunteered to share research that an Oklahoma
State University professor has done on the disease some of it
suggesting it could be contagious but they say they were rebuffed
as well. The CDC has said that it would conduct its own research
first, then vet the findings with outside scientists.
In the meantime, Smith says he's just trying to keep up with the
simple things in life. Unable to practice medicine for the past year
because of neurological and cognitive problems he believes are a
result of the disease, he says he is overwhelmed by mundane tasks
like housework or hobbies like working in the yard. "From day to day,
I can't predict how I'll feel," he says. "It's understandable why
many people are skeptical about this illness. The symptoms are so
unusual that they just don't make any sense. I even question my own
sanity from time to time. But if this is all psychiatric, please give
me something to make it go away."

Who said had a cure, I ask him post.. No see a reply.
Last week sometime on another group, a man posted said he just came
from another country & had a cure, said for people call a number.. I
called, left my # .. Hear from no one..
I will never say, I had a cure.. Would say had something that mint
help people and leave up to them.. Say if something help me..
Bettyjo melted down ( hot) in K. City,Kansas

NEWS FLASH........

THE "EARLY SHOW" FRIDAY MORNING.....

ABC "DATELINE.... WEDNESDAY NIGHT 10.00 PM EST

Morgellons: 'Fiber Disease' Bizarre Truth Begins To Emerge
[Editor's Note: June 25, 2006. When I first heard about Morgellons,
I had thought that the fibers were being picked up from chemtrails
and then pushed out of the body via lesions. However, somebody wrote
to me and assured me that the fibers were being PRODUCED by whatever
strange organisms were associated with this new 'disease'. Of
course, it's a given that this "problem" was manufactured in some
military or black ops government lab somewhere and it's most likely
being dispersed via chemtrails. As scary as the topic seems,
however, there is nothing in the universe that does not have its
own "resonant frequency". If it exists, then it has a resonant
frequency. If you happen to know what the resonant frequency is, and
you can successfully apply it to the "organism" under question, then
you can cause that creature to self destruct. I feel reasonably
certain that those web sites which attempt to link this
new 'disease' to ETs or off-planet origins (Mars 'meteorites' and
similar NASA nonsense) are merely pushing the disinfo envelope for
our friends in the alphabet agencies. All of our 'newly' discovered -
hitherto unknown- 'diseases (AIDS, Ebola, Flesh eating bacteria,
Hanta Virus, SARS, Bird flu, etc., etc.) are bio engineered bugs.
Population reduction certainly seems to be the theme of AIDS, but
this bug may be intended to keep people preoccupied and distracted
while they install the NWO police state. You should always bear in
mind, though, that for every problem, there is ALWAYS a solution. It
can be no other way; it's Universal Law. Isaac Newton tripped onto
that law with his own observation of "for every action, there is an
equal and opposite reaction" ...Ken]
By Cliff Mickelson <cmicke1065@...
http://educate-
yourself.org/cn/morgellonsfiberdiseasebizarre25jun06.shtml
June 25, 2006
http://www.rense.com/general71/fib.htm
We begin today with the continuation of my prior communications and
informative discussion with an acquaintance employed as an Asst.
Prof. of Pharmacology at a foreign University.
***
(Q) .....Have you any relatives that have contracted it?
***
No. However, I believe the evidence is overwhelming that this
affliction is contagious. It vectors itself in a variety of ways,
including via some very common cotton products.
From charting my own profile and that of other victims around the
world, (I have a file of cases from nearly every Continent except
Antarctica) It is apparent that this organism often engages in a
period of latency following initial infection.
The period of latent time involved appears to be subjective to a
variety of external and internal factors that I have not focused on
nor have I attempted to identify. Preliminary investigation tells me
that there may be a connection to a weakening of the immune system
that occurs for what ever reason; perhaps one that may even be at
the behest of the parasite.
This hiatus I mention above, can be as long as 2 to 4 years. In my
case, the time period was nearly 3 or so years from initial contact,
(and likely repeated exposure) with the source, until the overt
manifestations, (such as production of the macro-hair-like fibers in
follicles, scrapes, cuts, wounds) began to occur.
Some extended time before the first noticeable onset of this disease
there are often reports by victims of the inexplicable occurrence of
a painful rash. This is NOT the short-lived "bulls-eye" Lyme rash.
I have experienced this rash myself. It comes out of nowhere and is
pure agony. It itches intensely, but to scratch it is to bleed at
once. Nothing that is normally applied to such a condition will have
the slightest effect. It tends to appear on extremities such as the
ankles, wrists or back of the neck. For some reason, if one ankle or
wrist is afflicted the other will usually also show some kind of
sympathetic reaction.
This rash defies all convention and can last for as long as 5 or 6
weeks. Then, it disappears as suddenly as it appeared.
A victim simply wakes up one morning and the rash is gone! However,
it can frequently reappear, normally a year or so later, but in less
severity and with less duration. Then it disappears again just as
mysteriously.
This is a signal flag that the victim has been infected by contact
with the nematomorphic worm that is vectored in cotton. It can be
found in many cotton products. It is especially prevalent in Q-tips,
cotton balls for Makeup usage, and in cotton socks and undergarments
imported from the far East. The worm can exist indefinitely as an
independent form, but it originates as an appendage of the
adult "skin fluke" form.
How it gets in cotton, I have no idea. I have even found it
contained in sealed medical swabs that were manufactured approx. 6-7
years ago and that have been in storage ever since!
Following the disappearance of the rash, the aforementioned dormancy
period of several years can occur before onset becomes evident.
To return to the discussion of the macro "hair-like" fiber, it is
important to stress that this form is part and parcel of the
parasite.
It is one of the several number of forms that appear to be
transitional as well as simultaneously integral to the life form.
This particular form will often be seen growing out of open wounds
in a manner that one would expect of a hair. Since hair does not
grow out of open wounds, that characteristic is a dead giveaway.
Further, unlike a hair, when such a fiber, ("parasite form," is more
accurate description) is pulled out with tweezers, there is rarely
any pain at all. (unlike with a true hair)
The parasitic macro fiber is usually brown or clearish tan in color.
It exhibits a very close approximation to the size of a normal human
hair. As I have noted in past articles, it can often be seen growing
side by side with a normal hair from out of the same follicle. The
parasite quickly kills the original hair, however, and replaces it
as the sole occupant.
It is most disturbing to see numbers of follicles with duel
occupants! Open lesions, in conjunction with the fluke form and it's
attendant "cotton" worm; the "pepper" seed specks; and the colored
micro fibers, will all appear shortly thereafter, provided that the
illegal squatters are not served with a prompt eviction notice.
The removal of the above described macro fiber form always effects
an immediate relief of the low level throb of pain that is
additional and attendant to that of the wound. You will be
interested to know that the parasite, in both the fluke form and in
the macro fiber form, (or in tandem with each other, as well as in
degrees of transubstantiation with each other) appear to have the
ability to block the body from healing damage to the skin. This
characteristic is reliably consistent time after time.
Any wound where these organisms are extant will remain open or
poorly closed for weeks or even months on end. It is during this
time that the clear or white colored "cotton" worm is engaged in
feeding the home "colony" as an appendage and dependency of the
mother form.
As a result of much research and as described above, I can
comfortably state that this organism can often multi task. In other
words, it can either invade from without, or appear from within, any
existing cut or abrasion. Lacking such a convenience, it can create
it's own wound in the skin. (The lesions)
It would seem that our little friend has a tendency to do this as a
byproduct of the proclivity for eating flesh and blood during the
active feeding stage.
The physical removal of all visible forms of the parasite from the
wound is most efficacious. The body begins to instantly repair and
heal in a normal fashion. Nonetheless, the creature is quick to
reappear, often within an hour. Unless vigilance is the order of the
day, things soon are back to their original state of affairs.
Another fascinating observation I have made is that the above two-
forms of the creature are inordinate devotees of open air and the
freedom of wide open spaces. If one binds the wound well and keeps
it reasonably air tight, the organism will remain generally passive
and the wound will heal at a rate that is much closer to normal.
As an aside, I will mention to you something that you may wish to
ponder.
I humor myself that a remote outside possibility exists that this
organism is neither plant nor animal, but in fact, an odd and un-
natural entity that exhibits characteristics of both flora and fauna.
I do not have the means nor the time to investigate that hunch any
further, but it does intrigue me a great deal!
***
(Q)..... I have read & re-read your emails & poured over the
Morgellons links & for
the life of me I can't tell if they are related, identical or
completely
separate with absolutely nothing in common.
***
I understand your mystification. Allow me to reassure you that they
are one and the same. Several points that need to be made here are:
We are dealing with something that no one now living has apparently
ever seen before. It certainly does not exist in the Physicians Desk
Reference. To compound matters substantially, our subject matter is
magnificently designed to mimic specific products and processes of
the human body in both the early and, to a point, in the mature
states of infection.
To further the consternation, the organism has the irritating
facility to react and respond differently to any number of
environments it finds itself in. This has let to many surprises for
me at times and is a reminder of the risks of working from the
assumptions of the evidence of past behaviors.
Therefore, it is natural that a great deal of confusion exists. Many
doctors initially sent patients home with a diagnosis of delusional
parasitosis, because the patients would point to a bunch of samples
of what looked like cloth lint or flakes of dead skin, and
say...."Here ya go, Doc"! "There it is"!
I was fascinated by the reports I read from labs that claimed
exactly that! Many reports state that the samples submitted by the
Doctors, to the labs, either did not register any organism, or came
back with a read-out as lint or as skin. I suspect that this may be
because the cloaking devices that equip the organism are designed so
as to employ methods outside the parameters that standard tests are
programed to look for.
I do not believe that it is because "skin" was all that was
submitted.
It is an endless source of amazement to me how "First Person"
testimony and the validity of the evidence recorded by the eye is
supreme in a court of law and will send an accused person to the gas
chamber. But, in all other venues, the testimony of the eye is so
often readily blinded by the hearsay second hand affidavit and
personally unsubstantiated glare of words reflected hypnotically
from the pages of a book.
I have read much "sound and fury" about the possibility that the
Fiber disease is an opportunistic infection catching a free ride on
the likes of Lyme or other pathogens. Were I to subscribe to more
sinister viewpoints, I would remark that mixing a bit of the truth
with a bit of the untruth is a classic rule of thumb in the game of
disinformation and social diversion.
As we may pause to recall, Lyme was quite recently considered to be
a very rare affliction. Although I am certain that some people with
Lyme may also have additionally contacted this parasite, my belief
is that if a "free ride" is being hitched, then it is the other way
around.
The hitchhiker may have likely already been sitting "in the car" and
not simply "standing on the road" with a thumb sticking out in the
classic essence of a homeless microbe in search of a vector; one
that is patiently waiting for a ride to come along.
I aver that most opportunistic infection devotees, in the main, are
medical professionals who's judgment has become toxic as a result of
mixing their particular personality type with an overdose of their
own training. The affliction thereby produced, can be understandable
but dangerous and/or fatal to those around them.
Excluding the less forgivable "dog in the manger" motivation with
some, this type of professional journeyman is actually a cripple.
They are unconscious "self-limiters" who find themselves having
trouble choking down the fact that they are looking at something
that defies text book convention, belies established systems and
beliefs, and confounds the resources of all known descriptions
contained within the parameters of their professional world.
Subconsciously such an encounter is easily viewed as a threat to
many careerists. It is a road that is not drawn on their map and
they instinctively know that to travel upon it will detour them to
an end-logic destination, the likes of which, they have no wish to
go.
Therefore the natural tendency is to find refuge by diverting focus
in a direction where they are dealing with established "known
quantities" thus, comfort is found categorized minimalist avoidance
of the unknown.
In other words:....It's past the border of our road map, so it must
not be there..., and/or .....it is some kind of odd side-product
that can be minimized, ignored and marginalized by making it a
subordinate effect of a known quantity.
Unfortunately, this puts the cart before the horse instead of the
horse before the cart.
That is not to say that Lyme is not occurring in cases......
Be that as it may, I notice that most of the patients I have
communicated with who have received a diagnosis of Lyme, have not
responded fully to the prescribed standard treatment. Although cases
may exist, I currently do not have a single case file where a
patient who exhibited this parasite, and was diagnosed with Lyme,
has been cured by traditional Lyme curatives alone.
***
(Q)....Do you know if you were ever bitten by a tick that carried
the Lyme spirochete?
***
To the best of my knowledge I have not been bitten by a tick at all
since I was a child.
***
(Q)....Do you also have the fatigue that seems to accompany
Morgellons?
***
Yes, I did have the fatigue and mental fog that has been noted as a
product of the Fiber infection. Additionally I had, and still do to
some point, shortness of breath and difficulty negotiating physical
objects such as long stairs or climbing a hill.
I attribute the shortness of breath to the fact that my research
indicates that the parasite is fond of the respiratory tract. In
particular it can often be found to prefer the nasal passages and
ear canals. The same effects it creates in those areas, it also
creates further down the tract in the lungs. This activity gives an
effect of partially occluding the free passage of oxygen into the
body via the aegis of the lungs.
I remember the first time I noticed this effect in myself. Although
I have always been very physically active all my life, and have
never smoked cigarettes, I felt as if I had been suddenly smoking 3
packs a day!
The chronic fatigue and mental fog noticeably lessen when an active
program of visible parasite removal is maintained. The first time I
engaged in such a program I was amazed at the instant manner in
which my energies and cognitive facilities returned. (Extrapolate
the social implications and possible significance of that
interesting cause and effect, eh?)
Parasite removal not withstanding, in less than 24 hours, the same
symptoms of fatigue and fog would re-occur without fail. I came to
understand, as a result, that I must devote several hours a day,
without fail, to the task of parasite abatement if I were to wish to
continue a semi-normal life.
This creature is exceptionally prolific and can reproduce and
recover from losses inflicted upon it, at an astounding rate of
speed.
I will mention, as per my first letter to you, that traditional
poisons, medicines, chemicals, and petroleum products do not truly
phase this creature. A direct application of Acetone, Lacquer
thinner, or even MEK, (Methol Ethol Ketone) has no noticeable effect
upon a colony. It may annoy them a bit, but proportionately,
Vaseline vexes them a great deal more. At least the effects of
Vaseline forces them to probe the surface in order to see what it is
that is gumming up their room with a view.
In the course of my experiments, I have discovered an exception to
the rule above. As per my last letter, an application of undiluted
Polysul will have an immediate topical effect. I do not recommend
this. Polysul is an agricultural compound and can be poisonous.
Nonetheless, the result of the application of this compound causes
the fluke (feeding station) form of the parasite to break up into an
odd tapioca-like substance that is apparent when portions of the
transformed parasite is then removed with tweezers. Other than to
identify the negative effect of a high sulfur content compound upon
the career of our freeloading friend, I have not had the time yet to
analyze this phenomena further.
***
(Q)...A person who responded to your current STA thread seemed to
imply that he
was 'cured'. Do you think it more likely that he is in remission?
***
Yes, I noticed that at once. I have contacted this person and asked
them for details and for specifics that they feel may be relevant to
the situation. I personally believe that remission is more likely
than cure. I will be looking forward to hearing from the respondent
in question.
****
Part 2
Greetings one and all:
After several years of desperate work, I am currently achieving
excellent results with a curative procedure that has radically
reduced my own affliction. I remain hopeful that I will succeed in
ridding myself of the disease. At this point I am very close to
being free of what is, in my opinion, a rogue bio-agent, or
something even stranger and more significant than that.
We humans have a MAJOR problem on our hands. This is a world
epidemic and to compound the damage, we have an official denial in
place that further enables the spread of the affliction.
However, based upon my research, it is my opinion that there may be
a good reason that "Denial" is the unique official reaction to the
Fiber disease!
Does it strike anyone as strange that Ebola, Mad Cow, Aids, and Lord
knows how many other dozens of new diseases have emerged in the last
few years; all of which are almost immediately acknowledged and
accepted as a subject for research by the CDC and other
organizations that we charge to protect our health?
BUT NOT Fibers (AKA MORGELLONS)! Curious? Well, I'd say so, at least
a wee bit, eh?....So.... Just "why" do we suppose that this is the
state of affairs?
I believe I may know the answer to that question!
I don't want to come across as too radical on this affair, but the
fact is... that I am extremely radical on this affair! After
suffering through all the indignities and grief that this affliction
causes, I intend to speak my mind in hopes that I may help others
who have been kept in the dark by the ignorance (or worse) of the
enlightened.
And.... I don't care what the derm doctor, or the or any of the
other paid disinfo folks have to say in their attempts to cloud the
truth or to try and cover their tails. Those interested should know
that what I have found is very disturbing.
This parasite is using a common material to infect humans that is so
wide spread, and is used by humans so universally, that I believe
the entire world is at risk. (See Links at bottom) By the way, this
is NOT the only way this disease spreads, but it is one of the most
effective.
On the positive side.....After more than 2 years of trying nearly
medicine, every poison and every herb known to man, I may have
finally found something that promises to eliminate or at least
stymie the organism.
I don't want to jump the gun prematurely until I am certain that I
am on the road to a cure, but I am very excited about this new form
of attack on the disease. Lord only knows, NOTHING else has worked
at all. After 3 weeks of this new approach I am nearly parasite
free. I remove more dead and dying forms (Again, there are at least
5 forms of the same creature) every day.
If I achieve full success with this new regimen, I will post the
information at once. In closing, I would like to add that the truth
as I suspect it, about this little monster, is proof that fact is
stranger than fiction!
*****
(email below)
(Email is a Q and A exchange between myself and a Doctor of Biology
at a foreign University.)
*** (begin snip)
So...To get right to brass tacks and answer your questions:
1) Do you think that the organism that you isolated is the causative
agent in Morgellon's?
1A) First, I will have to qualify my answer by saying that at this
point there really is no definitive box to put the
term "Morgellon's" in. Since the creatures described at Mary's site
seem to have been on vacation for the last 300 years of medical
history, we have little to really go on in order to answer an
inquiry of that nature. I will say that there exist certain points
of resemblance to what was described in the past, that taken at face
value could connect yesterday with what we now confront in the
present.
If, indeed, this is the same creature, then where has it been for
the last several centuries, and how do we explain the additional
traits the modern organism is exhibiting that are not mentioned in
the texts of the Seventeenth Century?
So, I will have to say that, although a connection possibly could
exist, I do not personally believe that the creature affecting the
human population today is the exact same re-emergent plague of the
past.
2) Are your samples that you have mentioned in earlier Posts alive,
dead, inactive or do you know?
2A) It is my fervent hope that they have all been effectively
dispatched! Should I be wrong, then we, and "Houston" have a lot
more than just "A Problem"!
3) Have they been looked at under a microscope?
3A) On what I consider a non profession level, yes. For the record,
I do not consider myself to be a professional researcher. I was
dragged into this study by the caprice of infection.
So, to explain further, the samples and results that I have on file
have not been professionally viewed by a person trained in the use
of a tool such as an electron imager, or who would possess free
access to high quality equipment found in University labs.
4) This one might sound a little crazy, but Ill try & Explain
afterwards. Do you think these are Carbon-based terrestrial life-
forms?
4A) Rest assured that NOTHING that I could be asked about these
creatures would run the risk of being catalogued as crazy!
As a matter of fact, I have repeatedly entertained the very same
notion my self. The odds of them being silicon based forms however
is unlikely in my opinion due to the fact that they show a decided
preference for eating flesh and body fluids. I may be wrong, but
that sounds more like the diet of a carbon based parasite. As for
the origin of these little monsters, I would not be surprised in the
least were I to find that they are former prodigal inhabitants of an
alien world a lot farther away than the one we call San Francisco!
It is more likely that they are an engineered bio-agent.
The more I learn about these forms, the less I know. I am reduced to
imagining that what we have is nematomorphic nematode. One that is
exquisitely engineered for the human body. There does exist the
remote possibility that it is a creature produced of a rogue
agricultural experiment that has gone wrong. However, the longer I
am involved in studying this organism the more I am convinced that
we may be looking at the fabrication of rare genius or at that of
another world.
I have recently managed to isolate what I feel is the primary form
of this organism in it's active stage in the host body. However,
many loose ends remain to be pegged and several of the forms still
serve functions that I make no pretense of understanding in the
least. I am reduced to educated guesses in those areas.
The primary form of this affliction is NOT the fibers. It is also
not the cotton vectored nematomorph. It is instead, a fluke like
form so odd as to defy description. From it issue both the worm and
the fibers. Now, I must say again that there are 3 other forms of
this thing that I have not yet connected to the primary. But, I
believe that it eventually will be accomplished. I believe this
because the relationship between the different forms is such that
(IMO) only two possibilities exist. 1) All stages are manifestations
of the same creature in progress, ...or...2) If more than one
organism is involved here then they are so closely tied in a
symbiotic relationship as to be indistinguishable. In other words
they would be more like delegated task performers of the same
immediately related species of insect. (such as with bees or ants)
The primary form I mention has an appearance that varies slightly in
size and shape. I suspect that this is due to the stage of growth
that it is in more than anything else. It closely resembles a flake
or a piece of dead skin, and only a trained eye will detect the
difference at first. However, nearly all of these forms exhibit two
small protuberances at one end such as you might see on a snail or
slug with no shell. In fact, a slug with no shell is about the best
comparison to other creatures that I can come up with.
This "form" can be exceptionally flat or if it is filled with what
look like live birth junior parasites, it can be somewhat swollen.
Each of these creatures will posses a single needlelike appendage
that is inserted into the body of the host. The creature lives below
the top layer of skin and creates a hard calloused look on the top,
or surface of the skin. It grows with time in a horizontal or
lateral position. It is exceedingly strong and has the capacity to
attach itself to the underskin of the host with a tenacity that
defies belief. Upon occasion, when grasped with tweezers it can only
be removed by ripping it out through the skin as one would the
string on a bag of dog food. Despite the force required to do so,
the form of the creature apparently has more tensile strength than
does human skin because I have yet to see one break in half. They
usually come out in one piece. As this form matures it begins to
produce the worm. The worm grows out of one end of the creature and
can eventually reach several inches in length. It is this worm that
causes the lesions as it feeds upon the flesh of the host.
Eventually the worm separates from the Fluke like form and goes it's
own way.
Interestingly, the form seems to need or seems to prefer access to
open air. The skin above where it is located is perforated with
hundreds of tiny holes. Out of these holes the organism occasionally
extrudes filii or podia that can be plucked with tweezers. The
reaction time of this "extrusion" can be quite remarkable. It is
stimulated to appear by the stroking of the skin but can retract
instantly when a grab with the tweezers misses.
extrusions the form also extends mucus that holds within it the
colored micro fibers. This mucus like substance appears to be
exactly like that produced by the body, except is will usually be
full of colored fibers and also contain hundreds of the tiny
black "pepperlike" specks that many have speculated are a form
of "seed."
The mucus form often appears to function freely on it's own, but
only has been found in the respiratory / digestive system and nasal
passages of the host. Never on the outside of the skin. However, it
will always vector the colored fibers and black specks. It remains
possible that it is simply a preliminary or free form incarnation of
the primary fluke form.
This particular form has a remarkable way of moving itself around.
It will somehow throw a slender thread of mucus across the gap it
wishes to bridge and then transfer itself in consecutive "blobs" to
the new location by moving through the inside of the thread of mucus
the way that water moves in a pipe.
To return to the prior and primary fluke form .... It is my opinion
that one of the functions of the extruded filii or podia is to
infect itself upon any foreign object that passes within a certain
distance. To this end, it can be seen to literally hurl a mucus like
substance forth as an object passes by.
Once removed from the host, however, all forms of this creature
appear to lose the ability to respond to any kind of stimulus
whatsoever, except for the clear nematamorphic "cotton" worm. That
particular form can be seen in a frenzy of agitation. It appears to
be able to exist indefinitely in isolation. I have samples that are
still active despite months of being quarantined. Also, It is
interestingly much more active and responsive when it is removed as
a free agent than when it is removed attached to the fluke form.
As an aside, one interesting phenomena that I am currently
investigating is that when Polysul is applied to the fluke form, it
appears to break apart into a number of inert pieces that resemble a
sort of "tapioca." This is a consistant reaction and one that I am
most curious to understand.
Additionally, it exhibits indifference to the application of many
petrol based substances and derivitives that would kill you and I
instantly in a proportionate dosage!
Well, That's all I have time for right now. Much more remains to
describe. Much of it I have observed but do not understand the
function. In some cases I have yet to even establish a purpose. I
will bet the farm that this creature is much more complex than
anyone currently suspects. I would not be at all surprised to find
that it has the capacity to function on a variety of levels that
humans do not normally credit to what they call "lower" life forms.
There remains to be said that the infection is both systemic and
external. The nature of the manner in which the systemic infection
is achieved remains unanswered. It is possible that two forms of the
same "Borg" are at work here. One internally and the other
externally. My research indicates strongly, that externally, the so
called "Pepper" specks do propagate the macro fiber form that grows
from open wounds and hair follicles, but not the micro colored fiber
form nor the white Cotton thread like nematomorph inhabiting some
cotton products. The latter is spun off of the primary fluke form
and the former are produced by the mucus form of the fluke, before
and during it's metamorphosis into a primary "mother" form.
One last thing. I have observed that the organism seems to be able
to respond to changes in it's environment with amazing alacrity. It
can evince subtle and not so subtle ajustments in its shape and its
ongoing functions. This can translate into a new surprise to be seen
every so often.
Unlike most organisms of it's size, It seems to be able to transfer
information to others of it's kind. This can be readily seen in the
proactive reaction it exhibits to attacks upon it or its
environment. The response is very aggressive.
(end snip)
(More on the other forms of this disease, at another time)
Regards:
-CliffMickelson
Index of Morgellon's articles posted at www.rense.com
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/morgdat.htm

I heard early on that carbs and sugar "fuel the fire" for these things
so I cut both as much as possible. It's not easy to eat no carbs or
sugar at all, even have to be careful with suppliments. I don't know
if I would be worse off if I did eat sugar or carbs but I do notice
more biting when I eat something contianing either. Last week we had
a pot luck at work and I ate deviled eggs, (they had sweet pickle
relish..), I could feel them biting after.
k

Hello all!
Does anyone have direct experience with a low-carb diet? Whatever
this disease is, it must feed on sugar, which is metabolized from
carbs, so it stands to reason that is carbs are eliminated, the
Morgellons would starve.
Many people believe this to be a skin disease. It is not. Healing
the lesions does not help brain fog or fatigue. It is a disease that
is embedded deep within the body. treating the lesions does
sometimes help the lesions, but they simply re-appear is a new
place.
The best solution is to treat Morgellons internally with something
non-toxic that kills bacteria dn viruses effectively, without killing
th flora that is necessary in the gut.
Has anyone found such a substance and if so, what are the result of
taking this treatment?
cures to all!
Russell

That would benfit the people.I have had good results for my ackes &
pains, just mention a few Arthritis, anxiety attacks, fatigue. By
useing Magnets stones. I an so happy I have no troubles with these
ackes any more.. I am not ashame I use them, and will shout from roof
tops. I am 72 yrs. old & I am very active.. And these stones have
brought me back from a life of misery. And like I said, I will shout
from rooftop and if one person trys.. I feel good.. That I help
someone. So MIKE just say it.. Tell the deal u haveyhe I speack is @
http://www.geocities.com/cornellecreations... There are others.. if
you want research them.. This is just one I like.. to do buz with.
Good grade & cheap enough..

This is the email I received from this guy. Stay away from him he is
a scam artist...just wants your money. Pat
Hi Patricia,
I put this out for the first group to contact me. Those who are
really
ready to heal this will/have been guided to contact me. If memory
serves,

Snake oil salesman.

Rita

IF you really have the answer, post it here! Pat

Greetings all,
I am new to this..only a few days old in this...and yet I have
written to every person on the Morgellons research site as a result
of an article I read in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette last Sunday and
the Dallas Observer this past Monday.
I am writing to you today to offer hope...the Good Morning America
episode today and the Today show tomorrow are telling you of the
problem...not the solution.
For anyone interested in the healing solution contact me via this
board or at EMC2@...
This is real...and, it can be healed. It is not in your mind and
the inability of medicine to prove this does not make you crazy.
There is hope.
Sincerely,
Mike Connor

The rest of that email address is @cdc.gov

CDC considers Texas for Morgellons study
Web Posted: 07/25/2006 12:50 AM CDT
Deborah Knapp
KENS 5 Eyewitness News
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is launching a study
of Morgellons disease that may target South Texas where more than 100
people are suffering from the illness.
Cindy Casey suffers from Morgellons. Symptoms of the disease include
lesions that leave scars, the sensation of bugs crawling under the
skin, and fibers that pop out of the skin.
"Mostly black and white. Some of them were blue, and some of them
were red. The whole area gets really sore and you feel some sort of
crawling sensation around the lesion," Casey said.
Like others, Casey was diagnosed with delusional parasitosis
delusions of parasites. Most doctors do not recognize Morgellons as a
disease.
However, one medical school is taking Morgellons very seriously. Most
of the research on Morgellons is being done at Oklahoma State
University in Tulsa. Doctors and scientists at OSU said this disease
is real, and it's frightening.
"I am 100 percent convinced that Morgellons is a real disease
pathology," said Dr. Randy Wymore, an assistant professor of
pharmacology and physiology at OSU.
Wymore has spent the past year studying hundreds of fibers from
Morgellons patients.
"The samples do look very similar to one another," he said.
Wymore added that the fibers don't look like anything found in
textiles. He has also determined that the fibers are not rubbing off
from clothing, because doctors at OSU have found the fibers inside
the body.
"We were able to observe fibers under completely unbroken skin," he
said.
Dr. Rhonda Casey has examined more than 30 Morgellons patients.
"There's no question in my mind that it's a real disease," she said.
Dr. Casey has extracted fibers from under the skin, and examined them
under a microscope.
"If it were not for the fibers, the patients would all be taken
seriously. So I think even though the fibers may be a key to helping
us diagnose this disease, they have also been a hinderance to it even
being accepted as a real disease in the past," she said.
Even thought the lesions and fibers are the most visible symptoms,
doctors said the more damaging effects of this disease are the nerve
and neurological damage, which affects the ability to think and move.
"Trouble concentrating, trouble communicating, and problems thinking
of the words you want to say, and how you want to express yourself,"
patient Cindy Casey said.
However, it is the symptoms that sound like science fiction that make
this disease like no other.
"I pulled some fibers out, and I was just taking a look at it, and
the fibers just started to move around, kind of around each other,"
Cindy Casey said. "And I screamed to Charles (my husband), 'Charles,
come here and look, because everyone's been telling me I'm crazy.
Charles, look at this,' and he looked at it, and yeah, he saw it
too."
"This one I didn't want to believe," Charles Casey said.
Incidents like that are just one more bizarre part to this puzzling
disease that seems to be spreading.
"There is the slightly frightening component to it that we don't know
what causes this. If more and more people are coming down with
Morgellons, we need to get a handle on this," Wymore said. "Is there
an environmental component that needs to be addressed? Is it
contagious? These are all things that we don't know the answer to at
this point."
The CDC has formed a task force to investigate Morgellons, and they
are launching a study to find out where this condition is most common
and who it affects. Texas is one of the states with the most cases
per capita, and the epidemiology study may be conducted here.
The CDC has setup an e-mail address for people to ask questions,
because of the volume of calls following the reports that aired on
KENS 5 in May. That e-mail address is morgellonssyndrome@....

Anybody get Mike Stobbe's email addy?

Hi,

I'm Mike Stobbe, an Atlanta-based health reporter with the Associated Press. I'm writing an article on Morgellons and am interested in speaking with people who have suffered the symptoms. Please e-mail me at mstobbe@... and we can arrange a telephone interview. Thanks.

ttp://www2.mysanantonio.com/multimedia/video/newsondemand/index.cfm

I know that this crap has wreaked havoc on my life. I Have lost EVERYTHING including the love of my life and my soul mate. This SH*T has caused me to lose my marriage, my will to keep going on. I am so tired, stressed and fed up.

Hi all again,
Just a quick note...back in '05, one derm dr. prescribed a large tub of
10% sulfur ointment (sulfur in Aquaphor)It takes 2 days for the pharm.
to mix it up, etc....about $40/tub....I thought it was the cure for
this thing, but it did take ALL the sores off my legs then...and
they've NOT returned either. But just wanted to let you know it may be
something to ask your derm dr. for...while we're waiting for a real
cure for this B**** of a disease.....
Just slather the ointment on thick....put some plastic wrap and some
tape to keep it on.......and you'll see the sores go away and the
itching.....it's one thing that "Ritainthelibrary" didn't have on her
list of things that helped us in Morgellons'.....
Still hoping for fenbendazole or something else to help too......
I get so disgusted ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Michelle from Delaware County, Pa.

Hi all,

Like most of you I've been in hell with this Morg's crap; since May, 03. Seen lotsa derm dr.s...1 infectious disease dr....went to a couple different primary care physicians...trouble sleeping....trouble working....trouble thinking....can't wear long sleeve shirts....itching & scratching....sores....worms....sandpaper-like skin...itchy nose...itchy ears....tried everything under the sun to cure.... I had this stuff all over my legs and arms, one derm dr. put me on a 10% sulfur ointment (sulfur in aquaphor) which cured all the ones on my legs, but not my arms....(all started on my right arm after a cut working outdoors)....it would get down to just a few sores on my arms and then they'd start spreading again after I ran out of the sulfur ointment......latest thing I was trying was FENBENDAZOLE....

I thought this would be the cure, but now after 4 or 5 doses, it's still left some sores on both inner forearms, and inside elbows get all deep red, then they callous up and flake and itch.....cracks & sores too. But I ain't givin' up, no F****** way!!!!! (I want to go swimming in my sister's pool before the summer's over dammit!!!).

How close are we to a real cure people? What's this Wymore character finding and doing? I saw his latest video but it doesn't say anything that I ain't heard already 3 months ago.....

I want to be done with this sooooooo bad. Maybe I can get my hands on some IVERMECTIN or ALBENDAZOLE or MEBENDAZOLE...anyone know how I can get this on line without a dr.s note?

Michelle from Delaware County, Pa.

I recently had a severe case of edema in my left wrist that I
couldn't get to "drain". Through research, I found the Sole Detox
Pads, ordered them, they came in a couple of days (very quick). The
first night I used them, 80% of my swelling was gone. The second
night, 100%. I used them for 15 days and could not believe how much
toxins were removed from my system. Have been off them for about 7
days now, and have ordered more to do a final 15 days of detox.
Just thought you might be interested!:)
================================

My legs and feet look like big red watermelons most of the time and my entire body has swelled so that I weigh 80 lbs more than when this started. My doctor has been giving me Metolazone 5mg (one per day - very powerful) and Lasix 40mg. (4 a day) along with14 to16, 20meq Potassium pills a day. The duretics take the potassium right out of you. Along with this we have tried wrapping my legs in ace bandages, which did help some, but started to bleed after about and hour, wearing TED stockings and of course, "Putting my legs up" Unfortunately, none of this works completely and I can only get a day or two of peace before my body swells like a tick again. I have tried all kinds of creams but have found nothing that seems to take this down. So I guess I can't give anyone any helpful hints, but I will sure take some if somebody has any.

God Bless You All

Wes
rita borgeson <ritainthelibrary@...

Several here have swelling of legs, feet, abdomen, entire body etc and we think it's from Morgellons. One mentioned she needs to keep her feet elevated. That's commonly used as a treatment for swelling from any cause.

We're looking for ideas to help our fellow sufferers. I suggested that someone put lotrimin on her legs because lotrimin works for swollen eyebrow/eyelid/eye area. Do you think the swelling could be helped by any of the things you've used for your symptoms?

Suggestions wanted.
Rita

Today on the front page of the Chicago Tribune and then over to page 11
a long article on Morgellons "A Mystery Ailment Gets Under Skin" The
CDC doesn't know what it is, but thousands complain of painful symptoms.
Written by Howard Witt, Tribune Senior Correspondent. Very nice, long
article with pictures.
Yesterday on page 8 of the Chicago Tribune Business Section by Paul
Elias, Associated Press "Growing Use of Biotech Crops" "52% of cotton
grown last year was genetically engineered with a bacteria gene to
resist bugs without the need for pesticides, according to the U.S.
Deptment of Agriculture.
Three cheers for the Chicago Tribune. Nan

Please forward the offensive message to me at ritainthelibrary@... and I'll look into it. Thank you.

Rita

Several here have swelling of legs, feet, abdomen, entire body etc and we think it's from Morgellons. One mentioned she needs to keep her feet elevated. That's commonly used as a treatment for swelling from any cause.

We're looking for ideas to help our fellow sufferers. I suggested that someone put lotrimin on her legs because lotrimin works for swollen eyebrow/eyelid/eye area. Do you think the swelling could be helped by any of the things you've used for your symptoms?

Suggestions wanted.

Rita

I had not posted sence July 11th. I been bad sick
am not fully up as yet. I am almost back in the bed.as
when I readed my email from club this morning , some guy had email me
private and come down on me. All way from my french speach, spelling,
where I lived, age. I mean he lay it on.. He must be member here.. I
checked,, No can find name he used: Mark Jepsen
address: bannersacrosscalifornia@... He needs to be ban.

Hi Rita -

Acidophilus (probiotics) is part of my daily regime. I believe acidolphilus plays an important part in this. Before I knew about acidophilos, I was taking Bentonite detox liquid clay. It also seemed to help BUT has several minerals that you don't want to take on a daily basis. Have used Bentonite clay all over, let dry - took lots of black specks out of skin. There are several other things I use, Vit C, Neem capsules, Oregano drops, garlic, Vit E, multi-vitamins/ multi-mineral supplement (was taking silver but read it may not be healthy to keep on it full time), black walnut drops/clove oil (colon cleaners every few months, echineachea/goldenseal (off again/on again as it loses effectiveness if taken daily, milk thistle to help w/ parasites and/or stress in the liver and samento.

My diet is totally different nowdays. No fried foods, cane sugar, no white, 85% of my diet is akaline, appr. 15% acid. (www.regaininghealthnaturally.com). This website helped me form my own diet I could live w/.

ta borgeson <ritainthelibrary@...

Has anyone gone the probiotics route? Did it help?

Rita

With E.Coli. My son been here on his vacation careing for me
and sending out my orders, people at this time had take what
was already made up, as I was unable to functions. I been 3 days
trying get over the shackes in legs,so I can walk.Its hot here, but I
have have electic blanket on as I chill bad. Am lots better. Do not
know where this came from unless from water. I do not drink the
water,but still some could been on food that got wash.
All keep searching for cure for this Morgellon bug & I will check back
in few days, read the post. Will tell all E.Coli will kill one.
Cornelle

Has anyone gone the probiotics route? Did it help?

Rita

Hi Rita,
I've posted quite a few times so you probably know I'm fairly new to
Morgellons, its been about 5 months for me. I don't usually eat a lot
of carbs but have almost given up carbs and sugar completely, (note my
earlier post "I need sugar"). My symptoms are not that bad and I
don't know if its the diet, the many suppliments and products I use,
(early on when I thought it was scabies I sprayed myself a million
times a day with "Bug Arrest" a natural pet product for fleas, ticks,
mites and also human scabies. It dehydrates the pests and I think may
have dehydrated fibers as they were developing. I still use it as
needed along with the Bentonite Clay (which is the best product I
think for keeping me from getting bites and lesions), which I put on
after a soak with tea tree or clorox and in the morning after my shower.
I've been told, and seem to agree that low carb/sugar helps reduce
symptoms tremendously!
karen

There are also other groups... Morgellons - Texas, Bay area Morgellons, mothers against Morgellons and more. I joined most of them though I don't live in CA or TX. I consider them very informative.

Rita

Not much action here this day.. I have not seen post from Cornelle in some days, so I joted her note, she has been sick & still sick, she had bad case E.Colic from eating

a salad.Which she ate 10 days ago.( Her son answer me)

I placed order with her & in few days got my Magnets stones for my sister & I. They are beauitful. Have not sent my sis to her as yet.

Today I got sos from a lady I been seeing in town & we talk a little., she and hubby seem be afraid of others, as they say been hurt by many people & live deep in the woods away from others.a.So I was surprise she called at all. She was crying, saying for days she had these crawling deals all in her hair.Nite & day was keeping her awake, so she found one that was a bump, & itch, an stuck like a pen, she dug one out.Her hubby didn't belive she got that thing out her hair..It was black wormly looking thing ( had it taped down with clear tape).So thats where sos came from, him saying he not belive her. I told him I was comeing out & look . She had lots in her hair but none I could find elsewhere.She was really upset, I told them what was, & he loged on & done some reading, by that time she was really crying,

I finally talked her into wearing my Magnet bracelet/ necklace. I really did not want leave the stuff, as I don't know them to well. O-n-l-y h-o-p-e -I-g-e-t-b-a-c-k.

I left it with them as I recall Cornelle saying she had one under her arm,and she had taped bracelet a round & cleared up.I hope I get some sleep tonite, as those things are a sight.
"bettyjo.clawson" <bettyjo.clawson@...

You said go read about Magnet stones as was a deep subject.
I got into few websites , no find you. Care tell me where your
sites at ??? After reading , I feel be smart to get few items.
There was someone who mention a machine here, that shock the little
buggers, why not these stones. The ones I seen were beauitful,and I
like to check prices of all sites, before ordering. And I see
there are high grades also. Seems low grades are the cheaper. If I am
going invest in these I want a high grade.
Does anyone know if this bug has made its way to Arkansaw. I have a
sister there & she gets about everything under the sun. I am thinking
along the lines of getting her these Magnet items, for her 57 birthday.
(((( she does not wear necklaces/ bracelets/ rings etc.)))) I bet she
will after I show her pic of this Morgellon conditions.
Bettyjo.clawson

Rita,
Go to http://www.rense.com/
In the middle of the page there is a dark blue strip with yellow
headings. Go to the one that says "Morgellon's Mystery Disease", then
scroll down to "Morgellon's Datafile" this is written by the kind Dr I
wrote about.
Sending all my best, Nann

Hi everyone and God bless all of you.
We, at

Where did you read about Dr Borjeson? What else did it say about him/her?

Rita

I do not know where Dr Borjeson lives; but what I read shows the Dr is
very unhappy with the medical establishment for not recognizing it as a
disease.
(the email address given) askdrfeather@...
(the name given) Robbi Borjeson, MD
Every new name helps, Nann

For the record, the fenbendazole results didn't last long for me. I
may try again later, but it will have to be for a much longer time.
I'm right back to where I was before I took it..

best wishes for you, where do you live?

k

I also think it is important not to mention morgellons right off..sortof scares them!

preparation H! please keep us informed...the DE I just tried really took care of the inflammation part of it all too.

take care, k

To try to get away from sugar, I tried switching, totally, to Splenda, chloride or not, but it seemed to affect my immune system. When I use Splenda, infections start cropping up. I don't know why. It just happens.

Another thing I've tried, with some success, is the treadmill. When I'm zoning in on walking, I'm not thinking about sugar. Morgellons seems to have taken my speed but I still enjoy walking tremendously. Of course, if I could give up sugar/carbs/potatoes etc, I'd get my speed back.

I'm currently on a regimen of spinach (frozen), lima beans (frozen) & celery (fresh) cooked together in a chicken boullion base. A diet Pepsi in the morning helps me stick to it, I think. Because of caffeine, I try to finish the Pepsi before noon.

Rita

good luck with the new dr.! I'm hoping the dr I see next week will be
willing to do bloodwork etc. I was hoping, being early in the
infection that i may be able to kill it before it gets ugly.... this
morning I had a big tarry black speck.
k

All natural chap stick softens my scabs and when I bathe they wash
off. Now...believe it or not, a vet told me one time to use
Preperation H on my dogs hot spot....well I thought I would try it on
my sores. Either this flare is ending or the Perp H has helped. I
can't be sure which it is.
I saw a new doctor today. I did not mention morgellons. I wanted him
to start fresh. He ordered blood work and he will call when it comes
back. I really like this doctor...he has been treating my hubby for a
year. He and I have discussed hubby's case enough that I am sure he
knows that I am not wacko. I hope eventually to be able to approach
the morgellons idea with him. We shall see.
Blessings, Pat

I sure don't. Gotta have those goodies now and then. Blessings, Pat

Can you tell us who this Dr is? I know we've all been through the mill and I fear for you.

Rita

ok, I had to give in. soy frozen yogurt. Does everybody abstain from
sugar completely?

In a message dated 7/19/2006 12:20:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ritainthelibrary@... writes:

<<these wild discussions will be eliminated from
this group because they reflect on all of us.

Thanks so much, Rita! We do not know who is monitoring this list (members of the media, medical professionals?). If we make outlandish, supernatural claims our credibility suffers. I know the symptoms of this illness are unusual, but let's keep our discussions in the range of PLAUSABILITY, please. Thanks!

Cheers,

TV

In a message dated 7/19/2006 9:56:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, debditz44@... writes:

<<The report and a supplementary fact sheet are available at
http://www.doegenomestolife.org/biofuels. it doesn't take a genius to figure out just what is going on here!

So just what do you think IS going on here?!

Cheers,

TV

Until substantial proof is given to the group that chemtrails
are our problem or any other of the wild claims are proved
to be true, these wild discussions will be eliminated from
this group because they reflect on all of us. I'm not always
available so it won't always be immediately.
Rita
ritainthelibrary@...

US ENERGY RELEASES BIOFUELS ROADMAP The US Department of Energy has
published a scientific roadmap recounting advances in biotechnology
research contributing to the production of ethanol from
cellulose. "Breaking the Biological Barriers to Cellulosic Ethanol:
A Joint Research Agenda" also identifies research required to
optimizing this technology. Cellulosic ethanol is derived from the
inedible portions of plant matter, generally referred to as biomass.
The report enumerates the research programs needed to overcome
current challenges to the large-scale production of cellulosic
ethanol. These include developing better methods to break down
biomass materials into sugars; optimizing fermentation processes
that convert sugar to ethanol; and maximizing biomass feedstocks to
produce more ethanol per feedstock weight.
The report and a supplementary fact sheet are available at
http://www.doegenomestolife.org/biofuels.
I am not a scientist or professor or laboratory research
assistant. I have a high school diploma, had children at a young age
and practically grew up with them, but it doesn't take a genius to
figure out just what is going on here! If I recall, in one of the
news videos, Dr. Wymore or another Dr. said that one element and or
bacteria they found from the fibers was from a plant.("Cellulosic
ethanol is derived from the inedible portions of plant matter,
generally referred to as biomass".) Also I have read that Dr's have
determined that the fibers comming out of our skin are cellulose.
("The report enumerates the research programs needed to overcome
current challenges to the large-scale production of cellulosic
ethanol.") Also this thing in our bodies thrive on sugar.("These
include developing better methods to break down biomass materials
into sugars.") Also they talked about it being a fungus.
("optimizing fermentation processes that convert sugar to ethanol")
Don't need to read between the lines here now do we?
Sincerely, Debra M

I agree w/ you. You and I seem to be using some of the same things. Brain fog cleared, really bad depression left shortly after drastically changing diet and adding some of same supplements you are taking. Just wanted to compliment you on posting despite how things have been lately. Being positive helps and for me being in connection w/ a higher power really helps! Wishing all of you the very best -
l46cheetah <l46cheetah@...

I use ammonia in my laundry and also for cleaning. Spray my furniture
and carpets with it. Wipe things down with it.
Key IS enviroment and good food and good water.PLUS positive attitude
I also take supplements..Chlorella(claims to clean bowels and heals
tissues) Spirulina(claims complete protein and antioxident) Mangosteen
(called Queen of fruits and claims good for infection exzema, skin
disorsers and inflammation)Also take Neem capsules(claims to help
with
bacteria and fungal)
I take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in some filtered water each day. Good
for
ph. (I also sometimes put soda in bath water. Sometimes apple cider
vinegar as well)
I take homeopathic drops for my nuerotransmitters which seems to help.
It contains serotonin, dopemine,acatyl choline and catacholamine
My good doc mixes it up for me.I'm not running into to walls like I
was.
I have been on cleanses for a year and a half... either candida or
some
parasitic and get colon cleanses about every 3 months also foot baths
to draw out toxins.
I exercise even when I do not feel like it. I was on the couch at one
point and not able to get up. Felt like my organs were shutting down.
NOT GOING BACK THERE.
I have energy work done and I keep a connection through prayer.
I try hard to stay positive and hopeful. I have faith that we will
find answers through research and fortitude.
I don't fight with anybody and I stay away from chaos.
I try and do or say at least one nice thing for someone a day.
I hope that someone can get something good from my post.
I am going to ask anyone that wants to be negative to me please don't.
I have read alot of the posts and I almost don't want to post here.
It hasn't been feeling very friendly lately. The reason I came to the
post boards is for comfort and support. I understand that this is a
strain on everyone.This plays with our heads and emotions. I pray for
us all and hope that we can all find our way. Please show love and
concern. We are all in the same boat.
I'm not judging I'm just saying.

Dear Rita,

what speciality would a LLMD be in? general practitioner, infectious diseases...etc. can't find one anywhere in Georgia yet. sigh.

k

how wonderful!

Joseph Jemsek LLMD, possibly in the Carolinas may be ML.

Rita

I spoke with a Dr. today who has experience in treating Morgellons.
It was a very expensive phone consulation but since I'm early in this
disease, and I plan to clear myself of it and move past it, anything I
can do is worth it to me!
The Dr. said how fortunate I am to have such mild symptoms, to have
recognized it so early, and to have done so many things to clear
myself of it already including herbal parasite cleansers and treating
myself with Fenbendazole. He said Fenbendazole is available by
prescription with a slightly different name which I believe was
Albendazole.
I'm going to try to find an infectious disease Dr. to work with and
hope they'll prescribe the items that the phone consult Dr. told me to
get. The hard part will be convincing the Dr. that I need these drugs.
I sent $$ for the book that I posted previously about but the Dr. said
its currently being revised and may take a while to receive UGH, in
the meantime, I'm not eating sugar, trying to get the appt with the ID
Dr. and just got an all natural anti-fungal product to use on my
skin.... If I don't get the ID Dr. to prescribe, I'll repeat the
Fenbendazole, I'm so grateful to the person that first posted about it!

I use ammonia in my laundry and also for cleaning. Spray my furniture
and carpets with it. Wipe things down with it.
Key IS enviroment and good food and good water.PLUS positive attitude
I also take supplements..Chlorella(claims to clean bowels and heals
tissues) Spirulina(claims complete protein and antioxident) Mangosteen
(called Queen of fruits and claims good for infection exzema, skin
disorsers and inflammation)Also take Neem capsules(claims to help
with
bacteria and fungal)
I take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in some filtered water each day. Good
for
ph. (I also sometimes put soda in bath water. Sometimes apple cider
vinegar as well)
I take homeopathic drops for my nuerotransmitters which seems to help.
It contains serotonin, dopemine,acatyl choline and catacholamine
My good doc mixes it up for me.I'm not running into to walls like I
was.
I have been on cleanses for a year and a half... either candida or
some
parasitic and get colon cleanses about every 3 months also foot baths
to draw out toxins.
I exercise even when I do not feel like it. I was on the couch at one
point and not able to get up. Felt like my organs were shutting down.
NOT GOING BACK THERE.
I have energy work done and I keep a connection through prayer.
I try hard to stay positive and hopeful. I have faith that we will
find answers through research and fortitude.
I don't fight with anybody and I stay away from chaos.
I try and do or say at least one nice thing for someone a day.
I hope that someone can get something good from my post.
I am going to ask anyone that wants to be negative to me please don't.
I have read alot of the posts and I almost don't want to post here.
It hasn't been feeling very friendly lately. The reason I came to the
post boards is for comfort and support. I understand that this is a
strain on everyone.This plays with our heads and emotions. I pray for
us all and hope that we can all find our way. Please show love and
concern. We are all in the same boat.
I'm not judging I'm just saying.
If anyone wants to talk you can e-mail me L46cheetah@...
Thanks, Laur

Hello All,
There are a whole new group of pictures posted on Morgellons on the
http://www.rense.com/ site. I had called our county health officer
almost a month ago and he has never returned my call; I had also called
my girlfriends son who is on the local tv station and gave him all the
Morgellons sites and the only reply I ever got was "He had passed it on
to those who could put it on the air". Getting a run around even
trying to get someone to publish or talk about it.
I'll keep trying, Nan

please do! books on morgellons, now i hadn't thought of that...off to amazon.com I go!

k

Penny,

I have had abdominal pains for many years...all tests came back normal too...except my liver. (I do not drink btw) we are watching my liver, getting tested monthly. this is one of the reasons that I am going gently into using some of these hardcore medicines for bacteria/fungi. most of these are very hard on the liver.

the reason for me answering this post however is that since I started drinking the apple cider vinegar I have had much much less pain in the abdominal..also I can stand up straight now...I was all "pulled over" before; I think it hurt to stand up straight!!! I noticed after taking the apple cider vinegar for a week that all of a sudden I felt "free", my body felt healthier...and now I am standing up straight again without any ab pain. i still get the lower back pain occasionally.

also, you know once you start to feel better you stop taking it...and the abdominal pain came back. so it is definitely related.

I am adding about a tablespoon of vinegar to my ice water at least 3 times a day...spaced across the day. and it is wonderful! btw, I use white vinegar in my bathroom to kill the mold and fungi that grows there and it works just like chlorine does. so if we can't kill this fungus with chlorine perhaps we can use the white vinegar.

so do try the apple cider vinegar, its wonderful!

k

Dearest Sandra,

it sure sounds like fungus to me. we also have lots and lots of dust in the house. we have started treating our a/c filter with vinegar now every time we change it. we also have a house fan (living in the south), and I have started changing out the air in the house more often,,,we also pressure washed the outside of the house this weekend...we had lots of stuff growing on the house itself...so when we open windows are we getting fresh air or fungi and mold into the house?

this is one of those environmental questions that I think we won't be able to answer.

but I would definitely "kill" whatever you find in the kitchen. from the research I have done there seems to be some new fungi around that is not susceptible to chlorine (!!!! I thought chlorine would kill anything!!!) please let us know what it takes to kill the stuff under your kitchen sink! I have just ordered one of the super duper steam cleaning machines in and I intend to take it everywhere! especially everywhere in the kitchen!!!

take care, k

Hi everyone, thanks for the great details of the crater. I have been
dealing with this open sore for a week. I had it under my nose, above
my lip for 9 years. After seeing great progress tending the dogs sores
with sovereign silver, i got the courage to try to bring this to the
surface using vinegar to dilute the "fake covering", peroxide to
bubble out whatever is in there, and clear packaging tape to tape
samples on white paper to look at under the proscope-tv
microscope(200x). It took 4 weeks, a sesson each night. The tapings
showed assorted black, blue, clear,red,purple,green and aqua and tan
fibers... each random and seperate on each tape. Also, black
specks,red specks. Also a catagory i call globs and blobs....clear or
pinkish super- glue- like looking irregular shaped cells or balls(i
see them flat because i tape them) and usually containing a black or
pink speck in the center. Also clusters of black specks appearing
together as a large speck. I have seen a black fiber that appears to
be uncrimping from a black speck. I have not seen anything
moving...but it cant cause i tape it first. If i feel an itch...and i
tape where i feel it...usually it is one of these afore mentioned
items that the tape pulls up when i tape it and then look at the tv to
see what it is. The black fiber i have found in different stages. As a
speck, as a cluster, appearing like the shape of a paper staple(that
we use to put paper together with). In this form it seems to have two
projections on one end that look like barbs. I have seen a group of
these black staples lined up in what looks like a net made of tan
woven net. I have also seen what i call squares..they are more angular
than circular...i see them in red, blue, tourquoise. Last night i
itched and taped it and found it to be something i have not seen
before...a fiber piece, larger than the others...it was multicolored,
short white,then larger red, then blue, then short white, larger red,
largest blue repeated,forming a short piece of a fiber. I have found
these same fibers, spots,globs,blobs, squares by taping outside, and
inside the enviorment. But, learning to recognize them came just from
trying to bring this old dime size sore on my face to the surface. In
bringing it to the surface, things changed..... i was scared about how
it seemed to have a ooze defense, and without keeping it in
check...the whole thing seemed to grow. Thats when i switched to using
baking soda to absorb the ooze above the crater.It seemed to be a
battle, to keep adding baking soda as it built into a mound. Then, a
pause, and fibers or something would lift the mound off the crater as
the soda dried. I would reapply the baking soda and off we went again
in a game of "pattycake". I add the soda, the crater adds the ooze. I
remove the mound, and start again, the ooze builds up and tiny holds
begin to open equal distant around the crater on the surrounding skin,
and a tiny speck of ooze would come out from those, from each new
hole. This pattycake game really freeked be out! It seemed that
whatever was at the bottom of this crater needed oxygen, so i switched
to sovereign silver, which robs one celled bateria(i have read), of
oxygen. Last night i put silver on, waited til the crater started
forming holes, then would reappy silver. This was so discusting as it
keep me busy tending to it for an hour at least, during which time the
swollen scar like skin above the crater went flat, and the crater went
from brownish to black red and dried . I dont even want to look at it
after all that effort....but after reading what others have written
about the black fibers at the bottom....well, i hope its bottoms up
for this sore!None of this hurt, except the first week of this effort,
when vinegar or peroxide was applied i could feel pain all the way
thru my gum line on the same side, and pain in some of the teeth. That
has not been a problem since the first week. No soreness, on top, or
under where i can feel the bottom side with my tongue(actually it
feels gone from the underside) All this week, dealing with the open
sore...it always reforms the rim surrounding the crater. If i remove
it, i remakes it. Last night...it formed a scab, but no ring.,..so
when i get up the nerve ill tape it off to see whats in that. This is
rediculous! But, what choice do i have...its literally "in my
face","in front of my nose". While i wait for this "patty cake " game
to unfold, i have been making a facial mask of the baking soda and it
is pulling off the dry skin and revealing more fibers under that old
skin...but none of these larger sores....but it seems, lines of clear
fibers that nestled in the wrikles. As if all that isnt
enough....i also can see, using the tube blacklite...glowing orange
skin pores around my nose and under my mouth. Also, the larger blue
fibers which are found with the black lite(speck size now that i
stopped fabric dryer sheets and vacuumed them off the counters, tv,
ect for the past months). These blue specks can be seen on my skin
under the black light, and those i can tape or vacuum off( i use an
attachment for inflating things(in reverse) because it has a tiny
nozzle which works good on skin). If you recall i gave you the web
site where i found out about looking for these larger fibers(How to
see mystery chemtrail aerosol filaments by sue miller). I find these
more inside than outside, but, i do agree with the description of
appearance. I recently went to the article she mentions at the end of
her article where a team on that board were investigating finding
these...that was in the year 2000!Its at the site called "Eureka!(I
think ive found it...in black lite). I found this going thru netscape
search and it has many pages on their discussion and experiements.
These fibers are not coming out of our tap water...but do find their
way into the dogs water bowl overnight. According to this forum
mentioned above...the blue fibers burn at 375degrees, are very elastic
and strong, and maintain their fluoresent. One man is a chemistry
teacher, and others have equipment to test with. The girl who wrote
the article has compiled their findings. I dont know if this is what
causes the mystery skin disease...but perhaps someone with some
training could figure if it relates? In the mean time,a friend gave
me a book to read, so i could enjoy this nightmare where it should
be...in a science fiction book.Maybe Micheal Critton has morgellons
also....a great summer read, and food for thought...The Prey

Dear Daisy,

I too now have craters without ridges. I did the topical ivermectin about a week ago...that hurt a bunch. yes, most of the materials when lifted out of the craters did not hurt at all. The larger crater oozed like yours did and I used panacur on it topically and that stopped. it seems now to have a "healthy" scab on it, no more threads are growing, no more threads are appearing above or around the crater.

The ivermectin appears to have totally killed the smaller of the two craters. it got very pain ful too. when it got real painful I put topical panacur on it. and if is receding now for sure.

the 3 sores that appeared around the big crater appear to be receding. of the new sores that I got only two remain, and they appear to be healing. btw, the selsun blue didn't seem to do anything for these new sores.

I think using panacur topically is worth it. it seems to "kill" without damaging skin so much. I think also the ivermectin done topically is worth doing...but you can only apply once every 2 weeks - I think anything more may cause liver damage, so be careful! I have not felt any twinges or movement from any of the sores since applying the ivermectin.

I have been using topical panacur on places in the skin that were burning, itching, or crawly as well and it has taken care of that stuff too.

take care, k

I, like most of you,have more questions than answers about this crazy thing that makes us ill.but,I agree that we all must continue to work together and not against each other to figure it out. I think if we all keep putting our heads together and experimenting,that we will probably do better than the CDC or medical community to figure out what it is and how to treat it.share things that you find no matter how insignificant they may seem. I had been noticing that my home was collecting a lot more dust than usual,and that I was having to change my a.c. filter more often. I started cleaning out under my kitchen sink after my water fiasco last week,and discovered all kinds of stuff under there that resembled some of the stuff I had seen on my body.after thoroughly cleaning under there,the next a.m. I looked under there and there were things that looked like cob webs attached to my cabinet doors. upon carefully review,I looked closely and saw what looked like a tiny fragment of
glass entagled in these tightly webbed fibers ,as well as the grit and the black specks that I find on my body.I figured if they were under there they had to be other places also. I took one of those magnetic cloths and looked under my stove and there was a whole nest of them under there as well as my dishwasher. these things were not just dust and cobwebs. TRUST ME!! the fibers were bond so tightly together,its no wonder we can't remove them from our bodies. and the stuff that was intertwined in the fibers is the exact stuff that has been on me. also, my washer and dryer were havens for these things too. which may explain why I can never get them out of my laundry. I've come to reach one conclusion from this,and it's that these things seem to be attracted to heat and water. I don't know about most of you, but when it rains or is really hot, these things flare up like CRAZY. oh well, hope this information was helpful to you,and if any of you find these things in your homes
let me know. we will eventually get this figured out. Sandy.

Along with this nightmare of a skin infection I'm experiencing pains in my abdomen both left